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On 4/3/24 1:22 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 4/3/2024 5:59 AM, FPP wrote:
>> On 4/3/24 4:38 AM, shawn wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 23:45:56 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13261563/Angie-Harmon-reveals-Instacart-driver-shot-KILLED-dogs.html
>>>>>
>>>>> The actress Angie Harmon shared the devastating news that one of 
>>>>> her family's
>>>> dogs was shot and killed by an InstaCart delivery person over the 
>>>> Easter
>>>> weekend. The 51-year-old former LAW & ORDER star revealed on 
>>>> Instagram on
>>>> Monday that her dog Oliver had been killed by the delivery person 
>>>> after he
>>>> dropped off groceries to their home in Charlotte, North Carolina.
>>>>>
>>>>> "This Easter weekend a man delivering groceries for InstaCart shot 
>>>>> & killed
>>>> our precious Oliver," she wrote, alongside several sweet photos of the
>>>> deceased pet. "He got out of his car, delivered the food & THEN shot 
>>>> our
>>>> dog.
>>>> Our Ring camera was charging in the house, which he saw & then knew he
>>>> wasn’t
>>>> being recorded. The police let him go because he claimed 
>>>> self-defense. He
>>>> did
>>>> not have a scratch or bite on him nor were his pants torn. He was 
>>>> shopping
>>>> under a woman's identity named Merle. He shot our dog with my 
>>>> daughters and
>>>> myself at home and just kept saying, "Yeah, I shot your dog. Yeah, I 
>>>> did."
>>>> We
>>>> are completely traumatized and beyond devastated at the loss of our 
>>>> beloved
>>>> boy and family member."
>>>>>
>>>>> InstaCart responded to Harmon's claims with a statement to 
>>>>> DailyMail.com:
>>>>>
>>>>> "We were deeply saddened and disturbed to hear about this incident. 
>>>>> We have no
>>>> tolerance for violence of any kind and the shopper account was 
>>>> immediately
>>>> suspended from our platform," it said. "We have been in direct 
>>>> contact with
>>>> the customer and are cooperating with law enforcement on their
>>>> investigation."
>>>>>
>>>>> In an update from the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department to 
>>>>> TMZ, law
>>>> enforcement officials confirmed that the InstaCart driver claimed he 
>>>> shot
>>>> the
>>>> dog in self-defense.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The investigation revealed that a delivery driver arrived at the 
>>>>> residence to
>>>> deliver consumable goods. The driver told officers that a dog 
>>>> attacked him
>>>> while he was at the residence and that he defended himself by firing a
>>>> single
>>>> gunshot, striking and mortally wounding the dog. Another dog was 
>>>> present at
>>>> the residence but did not attack."
>>>>>
>>>>> They added that the department's Animal Control division was also 
>>>>> involved in
>>>> the response to the shooting but the department confirmed that no 
>>>> charges
>>>> had
>>>> been filed against the driver at this time.
>>>>>
>>>>> The police department added that it was not seeking out any other 
>>>>> individuals
>>>> in response to the shooting.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I’ve looked at the postings online and have some questions.
>>>>
>>>> Ring doorbells are rechargeable? You can just stick them up to the 
>>>> front of
>>>> the house and move them in and out? How come they don’t get stolen 
>>>> all the
>>>> time?
>>>
>>> Yeah, that has to be the case because most of them (all that I see
>>> around here) are just stuck to the door so there's no power
>>> connection. I haven't checked but assumed that the ring is locked to
>>> the case until you use the app to unlock the ring device.
>>>
>>>> The groceries delivered Were a very small package left at the front 
>>>> door. I
>>>> thought from the story presented he/she/it must’ve come inside to 
>>>> see that
>>>> her ring doorbell was recharging. So I’m not sure how he/she/it knew.
>>>
>>> I assume the actual device was missing (since it was inside
>>> recharging) so the easier way to put it is that the driver saw that
>>> there was no camera. He may not even have known they had a Ring device
>>> unless he delivered items there before.
>>>
>>>> Ring is currently heavily advertising that every big moment in your 
>>>> life
>>>> happens on your front porch and is captured by your ring doorbell video
>>>> which is just galactically stupid but will they continue this campaign?
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what Instacart and the local police policy is on Instacart,
>>>> drivers carrying weapons, potentially concealed?
>>>
>>> My guess is just the what ever the local laws are.
>>>
>>>> They won’t do anything to he/she/it. PETA goes to peoples homes and 
>>>> steals
>>>> their animals and kills them because they don’t think animals should be
>>>> pets and it’s just a small fine.
>>>
>>> Yeah, without a video of what the guy did I don't expect anything to
>>> happen to him.
>>>
>>
>> You're kidding, right?  Without him having proof of self defense, he's 
>> going to get his ass sued off.
>>
>> As far as criminal charges go, that'll depend on what, if anything, 
>> he's charged with - as well as his past record, if he has one.
> 
> I don't want to believe there are people who'd shoot a dog with zero 
> provocation, and I'm guessing a jury might not want to either.


You're confused.  Try "not enough provocation."  A dog growling isn't 
reason to execute it.