Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 17:00:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Bad reporting Hazards to Homeless article Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: <20240413162248.000059fe@example.com> <20240414115816.00002f6c@example.com> <17c68b3bbff3bbdb$39147$3340453$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com> Content-Language: en-US From: trotsky In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 52 Path: ...!news.misty.com!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.bofh.team!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 22:00:02 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 3207 X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17c6930f58e6628c$138660$3565594$c2d58868@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 3660 On 4/15/24 3:32 PM, BTR1701 wrote: > In article > <17c68b3bbff3bbdb$39147$3340453$c0d58a68@news.newsdemon.com>, > moviePig wrote: > >> On 4/14/2024 3:10 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >>> In article <20240414115816.00002f6c@example.com>, >>> Rhino wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 23:20:47 -0700 >>>> The Horny Goat wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 16:22:48 -0400, Rhino >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If the homeless were allowed agency, there would inevitably be >>>>>> pressure to hold them accountable for their actions. That would >>>>>> undermine the "progressive" Saviours who are going to fix everything >>>>>> with vast new and expensive - and almost certainly futile - programs >>>>>> to help the poor darlings. It's far better to just declare them all >>>>>> to be helpless captives of their addictions and mental health so >>>>>> that "help" can be applied in whatever fashion the government and >>>>>> their agents in the civil service deem necessary. Many many billions >>>>>> of tax dollars can then be wasted on schemes that won't solve the >>>>>> problem but WILL enrich the agencies that run the schemes. >>>>>> >>>>> You're suggesting forcible confinement in mental health facilities >>>> >>>> Actually, no, I was not even *thinking* of doing that. >>> >>> You may not be, but I am. If you're violently mentally ill, walking >>> around threatening people and attacking them, you need to be removed >>> from society. If your illness is such that treatment is ineffective, >>> then you stay there forever. But there's no reason the rest of us should >>> have to run the risk of being attacked, stabbed, set on fire, whatever >>> your delusions are telling you to do just going about our daily lives. >> >> Actually, there is *some* reason we run such risks: we give personal >> freedom the benefit of doubt under necessarily imperfect diagnoses. > > A mentally ill guy diagnosis himself perfectly Could you speak English please? You sound worse than a Trump. when he violently attacks > someone. At that point we know something must be done about him that > involves removing him from society. The only question is whether that > removal is permanent or not.