Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 04:38:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Snopes Finally Debunks Left-Wing Claim of "Very Fine People" in Charlottesville Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv References: Content-Language: en-US From: trotsky In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 68 Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.chmurka.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news.newsdemon.com!not-for-mail Nntp-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 09:38:25 +0000 X-Received-Bytes: 3520 Organization: NewsDemon - www.newsdemon.com X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsdemon.com Message-Id: <17ddbeb2451f7aca$4764$3767249$10d55a65@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 3917 On 6/29/24 12:01 PM, moviePig wrote: > On 6/29/2024 12:22 PM, trotsky wrote: >> On 6/28/24 5:22 PM, moviePig wrote: >>> On 6/28/2024 5:10 PM, shawn wrote: >>>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 19:39:52 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> BTR1701 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It's seven years after the fact and the damage has long since been >>>>>> done, but >>>>>> the left-wing fact checkers at Snopes have finally come out and >>>>>> admitted the >>>>>> whole claim that Trump called neo-Nazis "very fine people" was a >>>>>> hoax. I have >>>>>> no idea why, but credit where it's due, I suppose? >>>>> >>>>>> https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/ >>>>> >>>>> Eh >>>>> >>>>> It's another example of the more Trump talked, the more he buried >>>>> himself. There was no way for him to win. He should have ignored >>>>> it, or >>>>> limited his comments to condemning the murder. >>>>> >>>>> I don't put the "let's go beat up Nazis" counterprotestors on a high >>>>> moral plane. As far as I could tell, the protestors on both sides had >>>>> pretty low morals. >>>>> >>>>> I've personally objected to the removal of Civil War monuments making >>>>> the generals god-like, but MY reason is rather different than the >>>>> neo-Nazis: I don't think the modern generation should be re-writing >>>>> history. A past generation erected those monuments and we need to look >>>>> the ugliness of American history square in the face so we never forget >>>>> that Civil War generals were honored by certain Americans for the >>>>> modern >>>>> politics of that era. >>>> >>>> People are worried about those statues glorifying the actions of those >>>> people. I don't think the reasons behind the erecting of the statues >>>> or the timing is brought up that often. Certainly I never knew growing >>>> up the time frame for the erecting of the statues or the actual >>>> reasons behind it. It would be better to have kept the statues and put >>>> more effort into teaching the history behind their erection. >>>> >>>> Not that I think it would change things as it seems most people forget >>>> what little bit of history they get taught in school not long after >>>> leaving school. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I despite prettying up history. Trump was still wrong. >>>> >>>> Agreed. History is full of ugly moments that are best remembered in >>>> the hopes that we don't repeat them. >>> >>> A descriptive plaque with any such statue would seem to be so obvious >>> a solution that you have to wonder if both sides vehemently oppose it. >> >> >> We don't need statues to learn history. > > In fact, these statues seem to be about forgetting it... That's a fair point.