Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rhino Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Rant Men's Clothes Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:16:42 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 98 Message-ID: <20240630161642.00006a2a@example.com> References: <20240629202924.00002a1a@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 22:16:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ad913a28f0d6aa655883319d1a844ac3"; logging-data="721613"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/AbE8DKu0dhH9cKSNAub6WPz+4tbRxoOQ=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:0BIZdeAIiDDmHM9fsI/0fHvWmF4= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240630-4, 6/30/2024), Outbound message X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.2.0 (GTK 3.24.41; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 5620 On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:37:31 -0400 shawn wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:29:24 -0400, Rhino > wrote: > > >On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 23:19:46 -0000 (UTC) > >"Adam H. Kerman" wrote: > > > >> I am going to rant. I went to a national department store to buy > >> button down shirts, which I really needed. A year ago, I'd bought > >> several shirts. They were driving me nuts because only one of the > >> shirts had a pocket. > >> > >> I went through all of the shirts for sale in my size. Not a single > >> shirt had a pocket. Who decreed that men's shirts no longer have > >> pockets? > >> > >Some "fashion" guru has apparently decreed that shirts with pockets > >are unfashionable and the manufacturers have apparently kowtowed to > >this dictat. I'd say I was surprised but I'm not. It's how they've > >rolled for years. I've been trying to find a plain T-shirt with a > >chest pocket for at least a couple of years but anytime I go to a > >store, there are none to be had. Mind you, I haven't checked every > >store or catalogue so maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places.... > > > > It exists on Amazon. I've bought good quality t-shirts with the chest > pocket. > That's good to hear. I'll have to order some if I can find something plain; I don't want clothes adorned with giant logos for manufacturers. > >> Then the matter of shoes. I need another pair of gym shoes/running > >> shoes that fit. I wear them as my regular walking shoe. I have a > >> weird shoe size, very long and very narrow. > >> > >> We have the men's shoe comspiracy in which manufacturers inflate > >> the shoe size and ignore the shoe size standard. > >> > >> I saw a large number of shoes offered in my nominal size, so I > >> knew it was pointless to try them on. They'd be too small. > >> > >> I bought a pair that was nominally a half size larger. It was too > >> short. > >> > >> The pair I bought that was 2 1/2 sizes larger than my nominal shoe > >> size wasn't too short. > >> > >Shoes are another peeve for me. That started years ago when I tried > >to replace a pair of slippers that had worn out. I couldn't find a > >single pair in the mall store I visited and asked one of the staff > >about it. He told me they only carried slippers at Christmas time > >because that was the only time they sold (or maybe only sold in > >significant numbers). I still find that baffling because I used to > >wear them year round and wouldn't want to wait until Christmas to > >replace a worn-out pair. > > Which is one reason people are switching to buying most items through > the Internet. > I strongly prefer to try a pair of shoes before I buy it. I can picture weeks of waiting for packages, trying things on, finding them unsatisfactory and sending them back before I finally find something suitable. No thank you! > >As for size, I finally found a good shoe store a few years back, the > >kind that actually measured your feet and made sure you got into > >shoes that fit; the places I'd been going to for many previous years > >were all basically self-serve places where you tried things on and > >settled for whatever you found satisfactory, then took it to the > >cashier to ring it up. So I bought two very good pairs of shoes at > >this newly-discovered store, dress shoes and a pair of sneakers. I > >paid more than I was used to but both were on the sale table at > >significant discounts so I could have done much worse. Both have > >been excellent shoes. I don't wear dress shoes often so those will > >probably last the rest of my life. I wear the sneakers all the time > >and expect they'll last a few more years yet. > > > >I think you need to find a shoe store that still measures your feet > >and where the staff still knows more about shoes than how to operate > >the cash register. I think those places are increasingly rare but I > >have to imagine a city as big as Chicago still has one or two. > >(Unfortunately, the one I found has since closed down because the > >owner retired.) > > > >> This is more evidence that the world has moved on from me and I > >> literally do not fit in. I should just walk to the horizon and fall > >> off the edge. > > > >That's probably a bit drastic ;-) Try finding different stores to buy > >shirts and shoes! -- Rhino