Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael S Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Continuations Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 22:48:53 +0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <20240718224853.000046e1@yahoo.com> References: <47689j5gbdg2runh3t7oq2thodmfkalno6@4ax.com> <116d9j5651mtjmq4bkjaheuf0pgpu6p0m8@4ax.com> <7u7e9j5dthm94vb2vdsugngjf1cafhu2i4@4ax.com> <0f7b4deb1761f4c485d1dc3b21eb7cb3@www.novabbs.org> <4bbc6af7baab612635eef0de4847ba5b@www.novabbs.org> <20240718193803.00004176@yahoo.com> <20240718202843.00001dd0@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 21:48:59 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="628302425c55d3118798ac32d9023fa5"; logging-data="2683775"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+qVrDL0H2Nsy0+deDe06TpkXQk2sYANWg=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:7p6IdoUKBVeFoa2FxySrFuXuWUc= X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.34; x86_64-w64-mingw32) Bytes: 3078 On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 18:48:45 -0000 (UTC) Thomas Koenig wrote: > Michael S schrieb: > > On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 17:06:52 -0000 (UTC) > > Thomas Koenig wrote: > >> It does work far away from the equilibrium (which is the point). > > > > But how far? > > Does it work for EA/RT outside of, say [-10:+12] ? > > Ea is almost always positive; if if was negative, it would mean that > a reaction is is slowed down by increasing temperature (and by this > don't mean the reverse reaction). In the branch of physical chemistry that I was taught before switching to completely different profession, that's not that rare. For example, when temperature grows from 1500 degrees toward 1550 the transfer of phosphorus from molten steel to slag decelerates greatly. > If you see that in data, that > means that the Arrhenius model is not applicable because there is > in fact no activation energy to overcome, that something strange > happens in thermodynamics (say, you get solid precipitation of > one component at a certain temperature) or that some there are > some intermediate steps which are not described in the model. > > And to make sense, -Ea/(RT) is always less then zero. Reasonable > example: Ea = 30 kJ/mol, R=8.314, T=600 K gives you -6.01 as the > argument of the exponent, so the term is then ~ 0.002444 . So, something like [-10:0] ?