X-Received: by 2002:ac8:51ca:0:b0:41e:a615:1173 with SMTP id d10-20020ac851ca000000b0041ea6151173mr65548qtn.7.1700337952157; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 12:05:52 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a63:2806:0:b0:5be:1c3b:9b51 with SMTP id bs6-20020a632806000000b005be1c3b9b51mr579205pgb.5.1700337951807; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 12:05:51 -0800 (PST) Path: ...!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: fr.sci.physique Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 12:05:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2a01:e0a:170:e3f0:7897:9d15:142c:3139; posting-account=PKzfqAoAAAC4-vQRW_wt6WFB3xnoeWfi NNTP-Posting-Host: 2a01:e0a:170:e3f0:7897:9d15:142c:3139 References: <4c889034-b408-4498-a880-a388fdc24aa8n@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <441091cf-097b-4f18-95e2-d28c520f4fcbn@googlegroups.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=5BRR=5D_=5BRG=5D_Est=2Dil_possible_en_relativit=C3=A9_d=27avoir?= =?UTF-8?Q?_une_acc=C3=A9l=C3=A9ration_qui_ne_soit_pas_la_d=C3=A9riv=C3=A9e_d=27une_vites?= =?UTF-8?Q?se=2E?= From: Richard Verret Injection-Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 20:05:52 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bytes: 2255 Lines: 12 Le 18/11/2023 =C3=A0 20:19, Richard Hachel a =C3=A9crit : > Le 18/11/2023 =C3=A0 20:00, Richard Verret a =C3=A9crit : >> Presque tout, oui, mais il y a un champ =C3=A9norme de recherche pour le= s vrais physiciens, et j=E2=80=99aimerais bien, quant =C3=A0 moi, trouver l= a transformation qui relie un espace perceptible =C3=A0 l=E2=80=99espace r= =C3=A9el. > La transformation de Poincar=C3=A9 suffit. Il ne s=E2=80=99agit pas de la transformation d=E2=80=99un r=C3=A9f=C3=A9re= ntiel dans un autre, il s=E2=80=99agit de la transformation qui lie la visi= on d=E2=80=99un observateur =E2=80=94la r=C3=A9alit=C3=A9 perceptible=E2=80= =94 au r=C3=A9el, donc de la liaison entre l=E2=80=99observable et l=E2=80= =99inobservable.