Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: lithium explosion Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 12:18:47 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 70 Message-ID: <583q1jhr23cdt5gvuev48mr7nqh30i4jlt@4ax.com> References: <66195fa8$0$897417$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <0e3o1jtemfkbupqm1do0ml9t88a9n3h9fs@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 13:18:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b83ade9e45fe2bde0eae0350f380c352"; logging-data="276835"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19coY+D/IeGS8n9cjryEvJN9iiWxGcBRdg=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:gOZynClInyXZW58zYSaNzify71o= Bytes: 4195 On Sun, 14 Apr 2024 22:58:18 -0700, John Robertson wrote: >On 2024/04/14 10:09 a.m., Cursitor Doom wrote: >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 18:27:46 -0700, John Larkin >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 10:07:59 -0700, John Robertson >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2024/04/12 9:52 a.m., john larkin wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 12:22:00 -0400, bitrex wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 4/12/2024 10:04 AM, Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>> On 12/04/2024 9:16 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2024-04-12 07:19, Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 9/04/2024 3:03 am, Jeroen Belleman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 4/8/24 18:35, John Larkin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68744317 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't look like that one was charging. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lithium battery fires are a big deal in New York too. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> San Fancisco is swarming with illegal, unlicensed electric scooters, >>>>>>>>>>> surfboards, wheelie things, bikes, and motorcycles. >>>> >>>> As are most cities with access to Amazon/eBay...(no regulations on what >>>> people can sell on these platforms) >>>> >>>> ... >>>>>> And fretting about the hazards of exploding batteries with 300 million >>>>>> guns floating around is pretty schizophrenic. Compared to being injured >>>>>> by an exploding bike (or shot by a stranger for that matter) your >>>>>> chances of being shot by a police officer are at least the same, or higher. >>>>> >>>>> About 1300 people were killed by police in the US last year, out of a >>>>> population of 333 million, about 4 PPM. Cops rarely shoot polite >>>>> law-abiding citizens; don't threaten people, especially cops, with >>>>> guns or knives. >>>> >>>> Here in Canada the average number of people killed by police annually is >>>> just under 40 per year since 2011. Out of a population of roughly >>>> 40,000,000 or 1 PPM in other words. >>>> >>>> Perhaps our gun laws do make a difference. >>>> >>>> John :-#)# >>> >>> The population mix makes a bigger difference. Bad guys will always >>> find guns. > >If there are guns to be easily found. > >Make it harder to find guns, and bad guys can't get them easily. Where >it is easier to procure guns, gun violence is increased. Where it is >harder to get guns, fewer people are killed. Gun dealers don't want that >message getting out though. > >I don't think the US has ore bad people than anywhere else. People are >people. Bullies who can't get guns readily are easier to stop. >> >> Guns don't kill people. People kill people. > >The correct anecdote would be > >"Guns don't kill people (all by themselves), people (find it easier) to >kill people (using guns)." That's too verbose, it'll never catch on.