Path: ...!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!us8.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=Wj3AWZa:g=`RM5U7f X-Complaints-To: support@frugalusenet.com Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 01:14:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Expedition to Europa Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design References: <63br7jpf7le468rnljlfhaol4432dt70lq@4ax.com> <667f96cb$0$2873004$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> Content-Language: en-US From: bitrex In-Reply-To: <667f96cb$0$2873004$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 30 Message-ID: <667f983b$0$2873017$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1719638075 reader.netnews.com 2873017 127.0.0.1:57153 Bytes: 2385 On 6/29/2024 1:08 AM, bitrex wrote: > On 6/27/2024 5:17 PM, Don Y wrote: > >>> Most big librarys carry AW. >>> >>> . >>> >>> If it turns out that there is life in the ocean of Europa, which has >>> existed for something like four billion years, it supports the general >>> idea of "random but inevitable" theories of Abiogenesis. >> >> _Remembrance of Earth's Past_ has an interesting take on the whole >> notion behind an "empty" universe.  It's a tedious read (mainly for >> me coming from a non-chinese culture... just keeping track of the >> characters is difficult) but has some good ideas to chew on at its core. >> >> > > My guess: The Universe is mammoth, the technological and energy > requirements of even short-distance interstellar travel are immense, the > lifespan of technological civilizations is highly time-limited before > such a civilization destroys itself, technological civilizations are > very rare to begin with, and no technological civilization ever survives > long enough to attempt it. I call this the "vexation and vanity" theory; by the time an intelligent species is sufficiently intelligent to even conceive of the concept of interstellar flight as plausible, the degree of collective insanity required to think these thoughts in the first place already ensures its destruction.