Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 09:15:35 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <6d1eddd3fbf2b84297a25a283466799eef07cb3f@i2pn2.org> References: <33512b63716ac263c16b7d64cd1d77578c8aea9d@i2pn2.org> <069069bf23698c157ddfd9b62b9b2f632b484c40@i2pn2.org> <2d3620a6e2a8a57d9db7a33c9d476fe03cac455b@i2pn2.org> <75921cc1f17cdb691969a99e666f237cd09c0b09@i2pn2.org> <25729298b142c60d5b245231984119d42d4ac089@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 14:15:35 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="867955"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2903 Lines: 25 On 12/28/24 8:48 AM, WM wrote: > On 28.12.2024 06:23, Moebius wrote: >> >>>> On 12/17/24 4:51 PM, WM wrote: >> >>>>> all FISONs contain/are all n. > >> Hint: For each and every n e IN there is a FISON such that n is in it. > > No. If so, then the union of all FISONs would contain all n. But fact is > that the union of all FISONs is a FISON (all FISONs have infinitely many > successors) and leaves almost all numbers outside > ∀n ∈ ℕ_def: |ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ..., n}| = ℵo. > > Regards, WM No, doing an INFIITE union (which a union of all FISONs would be) can result in something different in type then the union of a finite number of FISONs. Just like the combining of ALL natural numbers gives us an infinite set, while ony combining a finite number of natural numbers gives us a finite set. You logic just can't handle infinite operations, and thus can't actually have the set of Natural Numbers as an element of it,