Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 00:08:52 +0000 Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Newsgroups: sci.math References: <357a8740434fb6f1b847130ac3afbd33c850fc37@i2pn2.org> <787067e5de3c455cb57389315b6821e96bcf86af@i2pn2.org> <1b6f89e7c35e4c9674af5a480e4bab6cb72e0915@i2pn2.org> <733ce219e9d2422859035e5094a7b3e92eea9c47@i2pn2.org> From: Ross Finlayson Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 16:09:02 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 73 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-0DQUi5MUOI6WkQjIcajdRn9o+BS+i3kn//WDUmXCA3HbFKvV+ONX0PL/KqE0T/ELNn5CHI0z8SYfNTe!b1UGovAJjQAK4NhS51lbWsa1+/mzyaVgi+BuaJvbffiSY/XsCZ6qvD80HoVNrTrt0w5bi3H+JUJR X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4329 On 12/24/2024 04:07 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 12/24/2024 12:27 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> On 12/24/2024 4:48 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>> On 12/24/2024 02:45 AM, WM wrote: >>>> On 23.12.2024 15:32, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 12/23/24 4:31 AM, WM wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>> No, I do as Cantor did. >>>>>> >>>>>>> No, you do what you THINK Cantor did, >>>>>> >>>>>> Show an n that I do not use with all intervals [1, n]. >>>> >>>>> The LAST one, which you say must exist to use your logic. >>>> >>>> I do what Cantor did. There is no last one. You cannot show an n that I >>>> do not use. There is none. Therefore all your arguing breaks down. >>>> >>>> Regards, WM >>>> >>> >>> Cantor went insane, .... >>> >> >> Cantor Pairing works with any unsigned integer. > > No, it works with two copies of the all the integers, > a left-hand-side and right-hand-side, > with regards to pairs > one from column A and one from column B. > > It reminds me of Prof. R., one time I > told him "I'm studying infinity" and > he laughed and said "infinity makes > people nuts" and I laughed and said > "yeah, it does". > > Point being that the incongruities of > what so many times is merely lax book-keeping > of "mathematical paradox" _seem_ to arise > from infinity, when it's really that there > are none, there are no mathematical paradoxes, > that point is to arrive at a theory for > mathematical objects, infinity and continuity > and all, and especially continuity and infinity, > that is sane. > > > That lazy, forgetful mathematicians confuse and > confound and conjoin and conflate various abstractions > and generalizations that are not due, has that > partial accounts are not sound. > > So, there's a complete account. > > "Cantor Pairing" isn't two integers, > it's two copies of the all the integers. > > It's called a "subset of a Cartesian Product, > including book-keeping which domain is which". > > Also it's usually called being Galilean, > or having the same cardinal. > > > Imagine a fountain of soap. > > A tower of rain, .... > > Behind the noodles, ....