Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 01:50:23 +0000 From: BTR1701 Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: 5th Circuit Strikes Down Bump Stock Ban References: User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.3b3 (Intel Mac OS X) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 18:47:42 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 46 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-yWSGJVDa1nd3sq4cH7t0F106XlisOQvbR5hw1HE69RK0w77Ta4RNm8Rjz3SS5dojVkj8YsBS0+IZGdx!loqlETEbmddkZG3SrgP3abr4BiSznf9xBZmLVzGSsERUp+zRSujnWRd5iW922I28NQ2IhcYRJ18H!y+c= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3690 In article , FPP wrote: > On 6/19/24 9:10 PM, shawn wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 16:28:26 -0700, BTR1701 wrote: > > > >> In article , > >> moviePig wrote: > >>> Machine gun: > >>> > >>> "...any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily > >>> restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual > >>> reloading, by a single function of the trigger." > >>> > >>> Now, tell me again how either gun in my video doesn't qualify... > >> > >> Because with the bump stock, it's only firing one shot per pull of the > >> trigger. The trigger is just being pulled repeatedly really fast as a > >> result of rebounding recoil caused by the bump stock. The bumper rocks > >> the rifle back and forth against the shooter's trigger finger, causing a > >> separate trigger pull each time. The statute you quoted above clearly > >> says "by a SINGLE function of the trigger". If you shoot 100 rounds with > >> a bump stock, you've got 100 functions of the trigger, not a single > >> function of the trigger. > > > > Yes, you are definitely technically correct. (The best kind.) That > > said you can see why people consider the bump stock to be the > > equivalent of turning a weapon into an equal to a machine gun. It > > isn't a machine gun but it ends throwing lead down field much like > > one. I think eventually the law will be updated to include bump stocks > > but who knows how long that will take. As no one who was involved in > > writing the original act likely foresaw the possibility of a bump > > stock. > > > Both still require the same action. A single trigger pull, with > constant pressure. Which isn't the standard under the law. The law's standard is a "single function of the trigger". As I said above, if you shoot 100 rounds with a bump stock, you've got 100 functions of the trigger, not a single function of the trigger. A semi-auto rifle physically can't fire more than one round with a single function of the trigger. It's impossible for a semi-auto rifle to meet the definition of "machine gun" under the NFA.