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On 23 Jul 2024 18:08:52 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
<tednolan>) wrote:

>In article <h8kv9jhhp1p1mnqdrn6bu8q9rb5vou3qtk@4ax.com>,
>Paul S Person  <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>On 22 Jul 2024 16:35:46 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
>><tednolan>) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <aavs9jhv508p9e8nl9au2gd8bikug3k21l@4ax.com>,
>>>Paul S Person  <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>>On 21 Jul 2024 16:29:21 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Paul S Person  <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 13:59:34 +1200, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> =
wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You probably don't need to back up Amazon purchases as you can =
download
>>>>>>>them again for no cost. (I haven't done that for years and years =
but
>>>>>>>when I lost a hard disk once, it was a simple task to reload them =
Amazon
>>>>>>>using "Kindle for PC".)
>>>>>>>If you need to back up individual books, then do a web search for =
DeDRM
>>>>>>>Calibre Kindle (or maybe Amazon).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The "Manage Content and Devices" Page (can't find it? Pull up =
"Returns
>>>>>>and Orders", go to "Digital Orders" and find an eBook; the button
>>>>>>should be the right) can download files for transfer by USB. You =
have
>>>>>>to designate which device you are planning to use it on, but it
>>>>>>downloads to Download and from there it can be moved ... anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>This is great if you trust Amazon's long-term ability to keep =
providing
>>>>>them.
>>>>
>>>>Actually, the idea is that you do this every time you buy one and =
then
>>>>move it somewhere Amazon can't find it and so can neither modify it
>>>>nor remove it. That still leaves DRM to be handled, of course, but I
>>>>keep reading about that not being unsolvable.
>>>>
>>>>The last time I tried to actually copy a file to a Kindle, I found =
the
>>>>directory system hard to understand. I don't know where they are
>>>>supposed to go, but they can be found and used in what is clearly not
>>>>the intended location. Or could be, I think this was with my
>>>>now-replaced PaperWhite.
>>>>
>>>>With the new Kindles, for a while, if I did the "download and
>>>>transfer" before having Amazon send it to the device [1] the device
>>>>would claim that, since I had copied it via USB, it was not synched
>>>>and never would synch. Rather a churlish attitude, but what can you
>>>>do?
>>>>
>>>>[1] Which quite an adventure with the new Kindles: by default, they =
go
>>>>to sleep and so /cannot receive books/ until you turn them on and =
they
>>>>wake up. And even then it is possible to see a book, delivered to the
>>>>wrong one because of Amazon's no longer allowing you to choose where
>>>>it is to go when you buy it (at least they stopped asking where you
>>>>wanted it to go and then sending it wherever /they/ decided was your
>>>>default), on the device and not be able to get the "Manage Content =
and
>>>>Devices" page to recognize that it is there and so cause it to be
>>>>removed. Chewing gum and baling wire, /that's/ what Amazon's support
>>>>of this feature is made of.
>>>>--=20
>>>
>>>Alternatively to putting an ebook file into the "documents" folder
>>>when the kindle is attached by USB, there is an email address =
associated
>>>with every kindle to which you can mail an ebook as an attachment and
>>>have it appear automagically.
>>
>>Provided it isn't sleeping, of course.
>>
>>I've never tried it so I have no idea how well it works.
>
>It doesn't matter if it's sleeping.  The document will be queued the
>next time you connect to the Internet.

It does to me. I like to visually confirm a book's arrival regardless
of how it is received.

>I've only done it a few times, but works OK.  It will automagically
>convert formats as well.
>
>	https://www.amazon.com/sendtokindle/email

IIRC, when my DSL vanished and my optic fibers hadn't been connected
yet, I tried to move a book, downloaded set for one device, to the
other device -- and it didn't work.

I suspect the reality is that, when you move a book to a device (I was
doing it by USB, so it couldn't have been done, or rather not done,
anywhere else), the receiving /device/ does the conversion, but only
if it can find the proper server. But I agree that "automagically"
describes the experience.
--=20
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"