Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Artificiqal Intelligence Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 12:28:03 -0700 Lines: 68 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net N6uMPQHneemVCSQpzKlN3w2cL3YSQzGBm5KEJShCjSX6dZrQAB Cancel-Lock: sha1:lhqKY/wqh+HFgY7PN68e4rgvk1M= sha256:jfGTra6TNKBemy+nfWCftiMGR49UZikbrtVggNmYQM4= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Bytes: 4519 On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 20:40:47 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: >On 8/29/2024 1:42 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 08:23:56 +0700, John B. >> wrote: >> >>> The thing I don't understand is, why use an "anything" reader on a >>> hand phone? I've been using hand phones since they were small enough >>> to be carried in one hand and I've never used a >>> thumb/hand/nose/anything/ reader and even more telling I've never seen >>> anyone else use one... in at least 4 different countries. >> >> A fingerprint reader is quite convenient: >> - I use the fingerprint reader as a substitute for the phone on/off >> button. >> - Some web sites use the fingerprint reader to speed up a web login >> process. Instead of a login, password, 2FA, wait for the text >> message, and type in the 2FA number, using the fingerprint reader does >> it all in one action. I use it for login to various medical web >> sites, where I usually need to login and check something in a hurry. > >Yes, that's an advantage I've used quite a lot. > >> Unfortunately, fingerprint readers are far from perfect: >> "Your Fingerprint Can Be Hacked For $5. Here’s How." >> > >Like most "Danger!" warnings, I think that one is overblown. The hacker >would have to observe a clean fingerprint, would have to know it's from >the proper finger, then go though a multi-step process (Photograph, >process in Photoshop, 3-d print on acetate, re-cast using wood glue) to >get something that might work, might not work. The aforementioned complicated process has the advantage of not requiring a mold to be made from the victims fingers. The fingerprint image lifted from a glass or plastic object is sufficient. Also, it's fairly simple (but expensive) to build a 3D finger print scanner: and print the results with a 3D printer. The behind the display fingerprint scanners use multiple cameras and 3D scanning. I haven't had any luck with those: "Apple invents a new Approach to Touch ID by using Multiple Cameras under the Display to capture 3D Fingerprint Data" >I can see the fictional characters in "Mission Impossible" doing it to >thwart an evil genius preparing for world domination. I doubt anyone >would be using it in real life to access my medical records. Not a problem. There seems to be an endless supply of evil geniuses and overly curious teenagers who can break into anything. If I wanted your medical records, I would simply go to the appropriate department at the hospital and ask for a copy of your medical records. That last time I did that for obtaining some test results, all they asked for was my date of birth (because they were in a hurry). -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558