Path: Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 16:33:28 +0000 Subject: Re: Can Jews be Nazis? Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling,rec.arts.tv,uk.comp.sys.mac,edm.general,sci.electronics.design References: <664b6ed6$0$981$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> From: % Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 09:33:29 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 240520-6, 2024-5-20), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-ID: Lines: 74 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-3eS0LhzdkDfu8BptYR4Pg4JcqRnhGyG/TfjLrR3vgJH7GwKqFCZrXFPUoK9H/Lc3iiLjNzZhkGUSguC!lJ2Y174JsWCCnR4v/XLE3CxYoToVARnY0d3kuGnsPwMQ+zVhRTkJ/jkEpbOBeEC/UJbZMRbBpi2P X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4968 john larkin wrote: > On Mon, 20 May 2024 11:40:06 -0400, bitrex wrote: > >> On 5/20/2024 9:57 AM, john larkin wrote: >>> On Sun, 19 May 24 23:57:56 UTC, NefeshBarYochai >>> wrote: >>> >>>> BY STEPHEN F. EISENMAN >>>> >>>> >>>> For many people, the question is inflammatory. The crimes of the >>>> German Nazis were of such magnitude that comparison with any other >>>> historical violence is invidious. The genocide of the Jews was >>>> deliberate and methodical and intended to eliminate every last one. >>>> The goal was the same with the Romani and Sinti people. By comparison, >>>> the Israelis – currently accused of genocide — are rank amateurs. They >>>> have so far killed some 35,000 Palestinians in Gaza out of a >>>> population of 2.3 million. >>>> >>>> But the question, “Can Jews be Nazis?” is nevertheless important for >>>> challenging claims of moral inoculation by virtue of the Jewish >>>> experience of the Holocaust. If Israeli leaders are indeed committing >>>> a genocide in Gaza – as seems the case — they inhabit the same moral >>>> universe as the German Nazis, regardless of the suffering of past >>>> generations. In addition to the 35,000 killed, the war in Gaza has >>>> injured another 75,000 and displaced 2 million. Most of the victims >>>> are women and children – how can their deaths be justified? Israeli >>>> cabinet ministers, Knesset members, military personnel, and police >>>> have all freely spoken of their wish to force Palestinians into Egypt, >>>> establish Jewish-only settlements in Gaza, and even use an atomic bomb >>>> to kill everyone in the Gaza strip. (U.S. senator Lindsay Graham >>>> recently also suggested using a nuclear weapon against Gaza.) >>> >>> >>> At the end of WWII, German cities and industry were heaps of burnt >>> rubble, much worse than Gaza today. Half of Germany was occupied by >>> the USSR. About 6 million jews had been starved and gassed to death by >>> the nazis. About 100 million people died in WWII. >>> >>> Israel wants to survive and is arguably doing what it must do to >>> survive. The bad guys aren't Israel, they are Iran and Hamas and the >>> many other savages, kidnappers, bombers, and rapists. >>> >>> The extreme islamists want to kill all the jews and take their land. >>> The citizens of Israel of course object. Thay have atom bombs and >>> havedn't used them, even after the drons attacks from Iran. >> >> If heavily nuclear-armed nations still routinely feel in great danger of >> their sovereignty and land being taken then it's hard to know what else >> to do for them that could make them feel any safer. >> >>> Long-term, Israel can't allow Iran to have nukes, because they know >>> that Iran will use them on Israeli cities and welcome retaliation as >>> blessed martyrdom. > > Exacrly. What's scary is that the extremist islamists are eager for > martyrdom, especially somebody else's. The lunatics in Iran may think > that a nuclear exchange is worth it if it kills a lot of jews. > > >> >> Iran has probably noticed that no nuclear-armed state has ever been >> conquered, it's unclear if Israel knows. >> > > > The Iranian leadership no doubt has nuke-proof tunnel complexes, built > at great expense. Strange how some people like to live underground. > Sounds nasty and stinky to me. > > > anything to bugger the americans , who want to lay claim to all the land