Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: NoBody Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: If Biden Loses Televised Debate, Can He Be Replaced? Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 07:36:36 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:36:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="73480162eb86799a550c60eb25e93b9b"; logging-data="3499492"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/2DS8khdRS4R4O8N3xKoI+sYzowb7bnMk=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:OgHRMZNQjFW8igjhUql66ybOK28= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 240627-6, 6/27/2024), Outbound message X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 3.3/32.846 X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 4094 On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:01:49 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote: >If President Biden is viewed as the loser of Thursday night's presidential >debate against former President Donald Trump, it may accelerate months-long >speculation that he could be replaced as the Democratic presidential nominee >in 2024. > >Back in mid-February, New York Magazine considered the possibility of >replacing the elderly 81-year-old president as the nominee. "From a political >perspective, the idea that Biden might be dumped from the ticket is extremely >far-fetched," New York Magazine wrote. "But technically it is possible, >though increasingly complicated, right up to Election Day." > >ABC News pointed out two types of delegates existed in the Democratic Party: >pledged delegates, who are allotted to candidates based on the votes in state >primaries but while assumed to be loyal to that candidate, are not legally >required to support the candidate, and "superdelegates," who become delegates >from their jobs, whether they are DNC members or political office holders. >Those delegates, too, are not legally bound to any candidate. > >"In most states, delegates are released from their obligations if a candidate >withdraws from the race," NY Magazine explained. > >The Hill reported that Democratic senators are insisting that speculation >Biden could be replaced is nonsense. One senator told The Hill, "There's no >way in hell that's true. Not a chance in hell that's true. I don't know what >to say." A Democratic consultant added, "If people mention that, if it's >talked about in settings, even if somebody says we need to have an >alternative, it's not really taken as something that seriously could happen. >You're in a conversation with somebody, somebody says, 'Do we have a backup?' >Something like that. Because, honestly, (Vice-President) Kamala Harris is not >really seen as ready for prime time." > >The last time an incumbent president was denied his party's nomination >occurred in 1884, when the GOP's Chester Arthur lost the nomination to his >Secretary of State, James G. Blaine. Blaine narrowly lost the election to >Democrat Grover Cleveland. > >New York Magazine opined that the only likely way that Biden would not be the >nominee would be if he voluntarily stepped down, an unlikely possibility, but >if he did the nomination would almost certainly go to Vice President Kamala >Harris, as "any other choice would not only infuriate Harris and her >supporters; it would also retroactively label Biden's first decision as party >leader in 2020 as a mistake." > >Earlier this month, Business Insider offered these possible replacements for >Biden should he not be the nominee: Kamala Harris, governors Gavin Newsom >(D-CA), Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI), Roy Cooper (D-N.C.), and Wes Moore (D-MD), >and senators Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) and Cory Booker (D-N.J.) The knives are out already.