Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: another hint of quantum consciousness Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 10:33:37 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <0s9bej1bhklummnn5iduadn94uvvne5k26@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 19:33:38 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="51aba1a40e598748b0ee13b746daf036"; logging-data="1683793"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+4y/CY5L2l3BN7JJenjn77" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:398Fuf0pZBfGIU+1eXCzHlQQWyE= Bytes: 2106 On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 13:03:07 -0400, Joe Gwinn wrote: >On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 08:13:10 -0700, john larkin wrote: > >> >>https://scitechdaily.com/groundbreaking-study-affirms-quantum-basis-for-consciousness-a-paradigm-shift-in-understanding-human-nature/ >> >>Interesting way to define consciousness, the thing that goes away when >>an a general anesthetic is applied. That can be quantified. > >I wouldn't get too fired up. The researchers are undergrads, and the >bit about microtubles originally came from Penrose, back before the >Neurocomputation field had found plausible mechanisms in vector >algebra over hyperdimensional parameter spaces. Undergrads and amateurs often shake up scientific dogma. > >Given that microtubules are very widely employed in all cells for all >manner of purposes, blocking microtubules does not imply that quantum >mechanics are or are not involved, as blocking anything that >fundamental is likely to affect very many things. > >Joe Gwinn Evolution seems to use anything that works, even if scientists disapprove.