Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!69.80.99.22.MISMATCH!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 14:52:49 +0000 From: John Larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Interesting inductor Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 07:51:20 -0700 Organization: Highland Tech Reply-To: xx@yy.com Message-ID: References: <2ja4vi5330qhkdbfa0m5r6i3foarkoqkne@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 50 X-Trace: sv3-dH0Lm68cg9+Xr89JZW4SgCaZ+5+E1GFOaeZdcCmFWiWgmjwqXPsBfwCc009E6xwjK1/Dv4Ucqe1R2/Q!i0Q4w4CluQQgdVdLfQ1HkveT/7sztx2kIdQVFt0dPRvj3jQvYrtiMA4gWANrb3ESxVc4GrgbO0XX!EVz4pg== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3445 On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:42:57 +0000, Clive Arthur wrote: >On 13/03/2024 22:43, john larkin wrote: >> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:32:27 +0000, Clive Arthur >> wrote: >> >>> On 13/03/2024 04:18, John Larkin wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I'm hassling with inductors now too, but at the other end of the speed >>>> spectrum. >>>> >>>> We want a programmable inductor, from maybe 1 mH to 500 mH or so, >>>> maybe 100 mA. Sounds like an inductive DAC, a series string of >>>> inductors with shorting relays. If the step inductance ratio were, >>>> say, 1.8:1 we could have some hidden bits, more than the customer >>>> sees, so we could get pretty close to his requested value. >>>> >>>> We could test all 2^n steps, make a list, and select the closest to >>>> his request. >>>> >>>> We're simulating loads to an engine control computer, torque motors >>>> and solenoids and steppers. >>>> >>> >>> Gyrator? >> >> We just yesterday had a brainstorm session about that. How can one >> make a programmable electronic fake inductor? >> >> A real inductor stores energy, and can do things like high voltage >> flyback. So a fake inductor should store energy, or pretend to. It >> could be done with a current shunt, a fast ADC, some math in an FPGA, >> a fast DAC, and a big power amplifier with big power supplies. Too >> much work. > >Yes, I got part way down the road of designing a gyrator to block >telemetry signals on a power line comms device. Soon realised it would >need lots of power. > >Just thinking out loud, and not really a serious suggestion, but would a >variac with a fixed inductor on the secondary work as a variable >inductor? I guess 500:1 would be impossible. There may be a cae for using a tapped transformer to front-end a single inductor, or two. That would need thinking, not my favorite activity at 7:30 in the morning.