Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Codes sent by text message Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:13:09 +0100 Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <1w4pvoyf4iu0k.6b8awc049ol6$.dlg@40tude.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 93napyZeczHdtobDF2v7sQKkOHENMz8lDe9/uKDX4OYGxLX+NF X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:LbIvS0wt9B6OH13Xdbn3eWlIi4w= sha256:rdzCMWGIi1Us+lqy3M4w1F5764Ma76TCsUYjfeslc0o= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: Bytes: 3696 On 2024-03-13 21:00, Chris wrote: > Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2024-03-13 09:11, Chris wrote: >>> Jörg Lorenz wrote: >>>> On 10.03.24 10:44, Bob Henson wrote: >>>>> Newyana2 wrote: >>>>>> At one point I played with crypto a bit. I had to upload a picture >>>>>> ID (drivers license), as well as giving them my email address and >>>>>> access to my bank account. As I recall I think they sent a voice >>>>>> message code to my landline, which is a lot more security in terms of >>>>>> proof of ID than a cellphone. The lamdline is registered to -- and >>>>>> wired to -- a physical address. >>>>> >>>>> They will struggle in the UK soon, then. All landlines disappear by the end >>>>> of 2025 - there will only be VoIP. >>>> >>>> Hardly ever read so much nonsense. We know Newyana does not have a cell >>>> phone but he or she wants to have a big mouth in technical groups >>>> discussing mobile technology. >>>> >>>> For you: IP-telephone lines are landlines. Landlines are not what you >>>> think they are. The backend is even in the UK ip-based for years. >>> >>> Do you have evidence for that? It's true that UK telephony has been digital >>> for a long time within the BT network, but that doesn't mean it's >>> internet/ip-based. >> >> I don't know about UK, but here in Spain all clients on fibre have a >> VoIP system, hidden. At the home, there is a device called ONT (Optical >> network terminal), which can be integrated on the router, that converts >> the phone over IP signals to an RJ-11 where we connect our traditional >> phone terminals. >> >> In fact, companies hide the VoIP credentials so that connecting a VoIP >> phone instead is not trivial. >> >> The stated goal is to remove all copper exchanges, migrating everybody >> to fibre (or some form of radio). The buildings can then be sold, they >> are in the city centres and are worth a packet. >> >> My understanding is that the UK is doing more or less the same, and many >> countries are on the same road. Which means that a lot of the current >> phone network is no longer circuit switched. > > I'm aware of that, but that's the recent (domestic) move away from copper > lines and VOIP. > > Jörg's comment was about the backhaul being ip-based for a much longer > period. It is so in his country, to my understanding. The Swiss I know have a tendency to think that the changes applied in their country have also been applied elsewhere :-D Like no TV over the air. -- Cheers, Carlos.