Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 06:08:59 +0000 Subject: Re: There he goes again Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: From: "26yh.0712" <26yh.0713@e6t5y.net> Organization: zippy gate Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 02:08:58 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 67 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-Gjn4qy3I+oVKZKZyF2ivTdx592G4cuvx2NRBTxR7ptmL69v2eNx4AvKdDQsVwuSE39ja1mxeVmS+ATi!yOUc7kXSe90p4d/70p4vjBDgwRsdMKEnzj2Z1CIGRz4sTXXQ+0dgCMk/qNJL8mBF6YAQhDfWZ94Z!czq16uqKo0a0vJG4NWVv X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4426 On 7/16/24 5:18 AM, D wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 Jul 2024, 26yh.0712 wrote: > >> On 7/15/24 1:19 AM, rbowman wrote: >>> On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 16:30:25 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>> >>>>     I too resist Google, the great big advertising >>>> agency and always search with DDG.  It is a choice on Firefox. >>>> SeaMonkey >>>> and Mercury browsers. >>> >>> I use Brave and generally go with the Brave search. >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_Search >>> >>> I do use DDG if I have Firefox open but have noticed DDG tends to be a >>> wrapper on Bing. >>> >>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13451223/Microsoft-outage- >>> >>> Bing-DuckDuckGo-ChatGPT-thousands-users.html >>> >>> DDG does have other sources it indexes. >> >> >>  While it would be great to completely avoid >>  Goog and M$, this just isn't practical. Those >>  engines are now so HUGE and quick that even >>  DDG is going to use them by proxy. The only >>  good bit is that DDG disguises YOUR identity >>  so Goog cannot easily monitor/target your stuff. >> >>  Future worry - Goog and M$ don't necessarily HAVE >>  to let DDG and related use them for searches. One >>  greedy itch and it's Goog or NOTHING worth a damn. >>  It is very difficult to create even a tiny spot >>  in the world where money doesn't rule - Ok, maybe >>  China, but there the STATE rules and spies on your >>  every keystroke with bad intent ........ >> >>  Aww ... I see AltaVista now takes you to Yahoo  :-( >> > > I think there would be some kind of antitrust procedure if one or two of > them started to cut off third party search engines. Maybe ... but with the $$$ Goog and M$ can bring to it ... well ...... might be a hopeless, or at least eternal, battle. > Perhaps, in the end, we'll revert to the classic, eternal beauty of > dmoz.org? It no longer works but it was one of those directories curated > by humans. Too small for modern needs. The present/future of "search" is a MASSIVE database with a MASSIVE distributed server farm and a LOT of "AI" being used. No 99-cent op can even remotely compete. Sorry. Hey, you can revive the print "Yellow Pages" .... This is one of the evolving, inevitable, PROBLEMS of the "digital age".