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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 May 2024 03:24:39 +0000 From: john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: An actual circuit Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 20:24:39 -0700 Message-ID: <obm25jtajqj96tjutjmo4vhlvglje74444@4ax.com> References: <v2qnhm$2586$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <uts15jlh0oo1hin58uu4a574kg5q3j9q5b@4ax.com> <v2qsu1$nc0$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <1cv15jdls60tjfcndqe9qm7bgjdtchv9u9@4ax.com> <v2r325$2h00c$1@dont-email.me> <v2r3sb$15r9$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v2r4od$2h9gp$1@dont-email.me> <aba25j94v1prpvgpd88qki5gqhrhv1pvcr@4ax.com> <v2rcbb$2icda$1@dont-email.me> <XnsB17CDFBC01F77idtokenpost@135.181.20.170> <v2rk03$1h9i$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 49 X-Trace: sv3-WtrSAg0phNf+X8OBYf1TrIiFjf/6+GBAsb4H9lYPgnQOw06BjGULvOaiEqMYFdvJBZnBNQqGW5b/GT7!oSK4tQDXIxN+NozKDMYwfmuf5O1IQ+hxRny+O3KNtCVWcZiSzcXM0w+R2ok+L/WHUNEsgoDHlLy3!L3Zgdw== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3068 On Fri, 24 May 2024 22:56:02 -0400, "Edward Rawde" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >"Mike Monett VE3BTI" <spamme@not.com> wrote in message >news:XnsB17CDFBC01F77idtokenpost@135.181.20.170... >> Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >>>> Insect cruelty. Plus you have to count their tiny feets backwards. >>> >>> The only good bugs is dead bugs. ;) >>>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Phil Hobbs >> >> The major flaw with dead bugs is you lose the identification of the ic. >> >> Six months later, you will have no idea what the circuit is, where the >> important signals are, or how the circuit works. >> >> Many high frequency ic's have a ground tab that must be connected to >> ground. This is not possible with dead bugs. >> >> Often not all of a prototype must be on a copperclad ground plane. >> Perpheral supporting circuits can be placed on a prototype board, with a >> section of ground plane mounted on the proto board as needed. This makes >> mounting test points and input and output signals much easier. >> >> Amazon has a large selection of suitable proto boards: >> >> https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=prototype+pcb+board >> > >I used to like Speedwire, particularly if I wanted and 8-bit CPU and a bunch >of 22V10s. >But it's no surprise I can barely find any reference to it now. > >https://www.google.com/search?&q=speedwire+bicc-vero&tbm=isch > >https://www.edn.com/wp-content/uploads/contenteetimes-images-01mdunn-benchtalk-proto4.jpg > >> >> -- >> MRM > It's cheap and easy now to make a few double-side or multilayer PCBs for anything complex.