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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.lang,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: To waffle, ‘to waver, to vacillate, to equivocate, to dither’ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 09:59:05 -0400 Lines: 30 Message-ID: <p8nk2jd1t0b917avc3e1qe0gelciuddvln@4ax.com> References: <874jbqlz6d.fsf@parhasard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net p/BRdMCYbQaEq47rp4/g1AOwJLUK9jBRnlkrbhfJu9Codr6TuB Cancel-Lock: sha1:Uo167cM8lQ/N+5q0Tel8u+/8/2w= sha256:b/sOv4P/wxUV8m8MMKLxzEUTflmstJBIBbVm+VUmoIE= User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.20.32.1218 Bytes: 1855 On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 07:43:54 +0100, Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> wrote: > >Speaking (in sci.lang) of Andy Grove, he uses waffle in the above sense in his >good, well-edited ‘High Output Management.’ In my youth I would only have used >or understood the word in the meaning ‘to ramble on, to say nothing of much >consequence,’ and OED2 documents that the fail-to-make-a-decision sense is >colloquial or non-standard. > >I presume I have misunderstood various Americans over the years in not picking >up on the ‘dither’ meaning. How universal is that meaning over there? In my usage, to "waffle" is to provide a reply to a question or demand that does not provide a specific response, acceptance, or denial. To include the "ramble" meaning, I would use "waffle-on". The response is extended, but with additional comments that don't clarify anything. A classic waffle used by a parent to child's request or demand is "We'll see". If the parent adds a number of conditions that may or may not determine if the request or demand will be granted, the parent has "waffled-on".