Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 17:21:34 +0000 From: john larkin Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Optocoupler datasheets Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 10:21:34 -0700 Message-ID: References: <66574685$0$2363143$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <30bfd151-0f05-5761-1ef9-ae5bc4a3c3b2@electrooptical.net> <050h5jlbdtnavt2aoo037j9p89eu4613af@4ax.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 37 X-Trace: sv3-R3DoS2sLOdDwcQPQjikvzp4/abfFmidwpJQPrhVH0O4Ggsi1PG9quDazD7L+8fEoZwjE7KcQOa8bvob!ZZJrpNOmuIIE0tvtvsTRPMy8uxHAkQGd1SvtJEuVoKv75Jpbv2KlRDw0l/wQZv6YUelUiY1MUOjz!lf9MtA== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2847 On Fri, 31 May 2024 11:57:14 -0400, "Edward Rawde" wrote: >"john larkin" wrote in message news:050h5jlbdtnavt2aoo037j9p89eu4613af@4ax.com... >> On Thu, 30 May 2024 11:29:18 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs >> wrote: >> >>>piglet wrote: >>>> On 29/05/2024 17:39, Phil Hobbs wrote: >>>>> On 2024-05-29 11:56, piglet wrote: >>>>>> bitrex wrote: >>>>>>> Optocoupler datasheets seem like kind of a mess, I try not to use them >>>>>>> too often in situations where there's any kind of power budget because >>>>>>> other than "shove some relatively huge current through the LED like 5-10 >>>>>>> mA" it's hard to know what you can get away with. >... >> >> But the really good logic couplers these days aren't optical. >> > >Have you used anything like these? >https://www.digchip.com/datasheets/parts/datasheet/477/ISO485P.php > >What other methods are available which can cope with communication between equipment on different power line phases? >Apart from the obvious transformer isolation used in computer networking? >And RF isolation such as Wireless networking and Bluetooth. > We use isolated ADCs (like ADUM7703) and logic isolators (like the ADUM1400 series.) Some newer ADCs and isolators include the isolated dc/dc converter to power the high side, which is very cool. There are some cheap electrical-metering multichannel ADCs that include the power isolation. There are also isolated mosfet gate drivers.