Path: Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 10:21:11 +0000 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 06:21:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird From: bad sector Subject: Re: is my phone ON or is it OFF? Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android References: Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 45 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-cBFOnhPVvNg+itoKFxnL6SqqdXL0UT0CD6Uo0s67+qDIuKDfCBuyFp9KuScU3ppV+olI66eiXFrQZPe!YdbvMtndHkY1DDnSXkH0UqQsO3RYUPGGa+NH0ITkvbDX38US1EA/hy/txJ4H6pnHp1m01DANdNw6 X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3637 On 4/30/24 04:33, Arno Welzel wrote: > bad sector, 2024-04-30 01:40: > >> On 4/29/24 09:02, Arno Welzel wrote: >>> bad sector, 2024-04-25 00:55: >>> >>>> The net is full of people having issues with phones they only thought >>>> were OFF. My android Zflip is even worse that a simple conventional >>>> design. Most times I turn it OFF/ON to be sure, there being no obvious, >>>> bulletproof, always in your face, indication which should be a prerequisite. >>> >>> Well - as long as you did not explicitely did POWER OFF the phone it is >>> not turned off. And "power off" means you press and HOLD the power >>> button until a menu appears where you can select to POWER OFF the >>> device. Just turning the display off by pressing the power buttons >>> briefly is not enough of course. >> >> >> There has been a bit of misunderstanding since my OP in which I raised >> two issues. When I said "they only thought were OFF" I obviously meant >> 'on-hook' although an unwanted power-on state could in and of itself >> also kill you in the wrong situation. After that MY workaround of >> powering off TO ASSURE THAT IT IS ON-HOOK clouded the issue I think, but >> both issues remain IMO extremely important all the time. > > I see - you refer to the question if there is a phone call still active > or unintentially started. Yes, unfortunately, smartphones usually don't > have dedicated "hang up" keys any longer except special models intended > to be used by older or disabled people. > > However, when the phone app is still in an active call you should > usually also see a notification about this at the top of the screen. In this day and age of (even apolitical) globalization and cultural babylon it no longer suffices for communication to be understandable, communication must henceforth be impossible to misunderstand. The phone (supposedly) is trying to communicate to the user *vitally important* information at the top of which list figure power and connection or line states. If this is not an unconditional success at the level of both facilitation and communication, and IMO it most certainly is not, I can see two reasons for that: intentional virtualization distancing the user from real control and awareness or incompetent hardware/software design by fucktards (of the kind that we see in cars more every day).