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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Refutation of the Peter Linz Halting Problem proof 2024-03-05 --partial agreement-- Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 14:20:38 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <usd7im$17ufd$1@dont-email.me> References: <us8shn$7g2d$1@dont-email.me> <us92f0$uvql$4@i2pn2.org> <us931e$8gmr$1@dont-email.me> <usa4rk$10ek4$3@i2pn2.org> <usa5to$gp0j$1@dont-email.me> <usa8lp$10ek5$5@i2pn2.org> <usa9o9$ho7b$1@dont-email.me> <usag21$118jg$1@i2pn2.org> <usanbu$klu7$1@dont-email.me> <usavv8$m3rv$5@dont-email.me> <usb0fh$m7mn$4@dont-email.me> <usbb7s$12dn0$1@i2pn2.org> <usbbtq$rneq$2@dont-email.me> <usbfjn$12dmv$7@i2pn2.org> <usbm60$tg2q$2@dont-email.me> <usbnb6$12dmv$16@i2pn2.org> <usbpb4$u2pm$1@dont-email.me> <usd6aa$150h1$2@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 20:20:39 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="991a76fa9aa76d17f8f6286f1a0a882d"; logging-data="1309165"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18jlWVbztZzEYYaEM37OBE1" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:HJJdylIUj7xowo48KADlPBH+8eg= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <usd6aa$150h1$2@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 2723 On 3/7/2024 1:59 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 3/6/24 11:11 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 3/7/2024 12:37 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 3/6/24 10:17 PM, olcott wrote: > >>>> Ĥ.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.Hq0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.Hqy ∞ // Ĥ applied to ⟨Ĥ⟩ halts >>>> Ĥ.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.Hq0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.Hqn // Ĥ applied to ⟨Ĥ⟩ does not >>>> halt >>>> >>>> The design of Olcott Machines makes quite easy for Ĥ.H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ >>>> to get its abort criteria. >>>> >>> >>> Which doesn't match the Halting Problem requirements, >> >> It does match the Halting Problem requirements, when >> they are implemented indirectly as "abort criteria". >> > > Which is a different criteria, so you are just admitting that you are > using a strawman desception and thus INTENTIONALLY LYING. > > Somehow you think lies are ok if they help you prove your false statements. The Linz second ⊢* enables H to compute any damn thing as long as this ends up computing halting. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer