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Subject: Re: Codes sent by text message
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 02:53:01 -0000 (UTC)
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On 3/9/24 7:30 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
>"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote
>
>| >    As V said, the simple answer is that they want to spy.
>|
>| No, that's not it. Not for a bank.
>|
>
>Of course that's it.
>
>| They want to know that you are an actual person with a phone and
>| contract. They have to trust the company giving those numbers.
>|
>
>   An actual person with a phone contract? So you're saying that
>having a cellphone is more proof of ID than my drivers license? You've
>been drinking the kool-aid.



>   At one point I played with crypto a bit. I had to upload a picture
>ID (drivers license), as well as giving them my email address and
>access to my bank account. As I recall I think they sent a voice
>message code to my landline, which is a lot more security in terms of
>proof of ID than a cellphone. The lamdline is registered to -- and
>wired to -- a physical address.

Wow. That's a lot of info to give an online company for a paranoid guy like
 you...  8-O


>
>   Investing with the US Treasury does not require a cellphone.
>They send a code via email.
>
>  My Tracfone was bought at BestBuy. At no point did I have to
>enter an ID or open an account. Tracfone officially has no idea
>who I am. I buy minutes at a drugstore every 3 months. There's
>no inherent security or proof of ID with cellphones. If I were going
>to do anything online requiring a cellphone, I'd be using that Tracfone.
>The problem, as I noted, is that if I lost the cellphone I don't feel
>confident that I'd be able to get into my account. There's no one
>minding the store.
>
>  I ran into a similar issue with my brotyher who had a stroke. I
>tried to get his email. Google wouldn't let me. They wanted 2FA.
>He'd never set up 2FA! Apparently they saw that I was logging in
>from a different location, on a different device. There was no way
>around it. One doesn't just call a tech support person at Google.



>  So it's pure bullshit for them to talk about security and even more
>BS to talk about confirming who you are. The only credible reason to
>require 2FA via cellphone is to track you.

I prefer text 2FA because it's immediate. If I didn't request it and
 somebody's using my password I want to know right away...