Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?= Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Codes sent by text message Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 07:42:51 +0100 Organization: Camembert Normand au Lait Cru Lines: 67 Message-ID: References: <1w4pvoyf4iu0k.6b8awc049ol6$.dlg@40tude.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 06:42:51 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a60ca1f79ed077e7d9701d22a0916a74"; logging-data="2268353"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18nEdtI304Hfw/+qpe1OBjy8dA1A0Awuzs=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:115.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/115.8.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:qgxaMNluMZCP0iJ9vCujSg8R9t0= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: de-CH, en-GB Bytes: 4301 On 14.03.24 21:13, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2024-03-13 21:00, Chris wrote: >> Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2024-03-13 09:11, Chris wrote: >>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote: >>>>> On 10.03.24 10:44, Bob Henson wrote: >>>>>> Newyana2 wrote: >>>>>>> At one point I played with crypto a bit. I had to upload a picture >>>>>>> ID (drivers license), as well as giving them my email address and >>>>>>> access to my bank account. As I recall I think they sent a voice >>>>>>> message code to my landline, which is a lot more security in terms of >>>>>>> proof of ID than a cellphone. The lamdline is registered to -- and >>>>>>> wired to -- a physical address. >>>>>> >>>>>> They will struggle in the UK soon, then. All landlines disappear by the end >>>>>> of 2025 - there will only be VoIP. >>>>> >>>>> Hardly ever read so much nonsense. We know Newyana does not have a cell >>>>> phone but he or she wants to have a big mouth in technical groups >>>>> discussing mobile technology. >>>>> >>>>> For you: IP-telephone lines are landlines. Landlines are not what you >>>>> think they are. The backend is even in the UK ip-based for years. >>>> >>>> Do you have evidence for that? It's true that UK telephony has been digital >>>> for a long time within the BT network, but that doesn't mean it's >>>> internet/ip-based. >>> >>> I don't know about UK, but here in Spain all clients on fibre have a >>> VoIP system, hidden. At the home, there is a device called ONT (Optical >>> network terminal), which can be integrated on the router, that converts >>> the phone over IP signals to an RJ-11 where we connect our traditional >>> phone terminals. >>> >>> In fact, companies hide the VoIP credentials so that connecting a VoIP >>> phone instead is not trivial. >>> >>> The stated goal is to remove all copper exchanges, migrating everybody >>> to fibre (or some form of radio). The buildings can then be sold, they >>> are in the city centres and are worth a packet. >>> >>> My understanding is that the UK is doing more or less the same, and many >>> countries are on the same road. Which means that a lot of the current >>> phone network is no longer circuit switched. >> >> I'm aware of that, but that's the recent (domestic) move away from copper >> lines and VOIP. >> >> Jörg's comment was about the backhaul being ip-based for a much longer >> period. > > It is so in his country, to my understanding. > > The Swiss I know have a tendency to think that the changes applied in > their country have also been applied elsewhere :-D > > Like no TV over the air. Very Old Style! We use satellite or fibre-based IP-TV. More reliable and much better quality. BTW: Classical TV is a thing of the past. -- "Mille viae ducunt hominem per saecula Romam." (Alanus ab Insulis 1120-1202)