Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: Codes sent by text message Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 09:10:00 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 64 Message-ID: References: <1w4pvoyf4iu0k.6b8awc049ol6$.dlg@40tude.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 09:10:00 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="09d296181a7fdd4f3eafd0475b86346b"; logging-data="2322219"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18AI1kXTwJ5C9p393oO7w5+FNClrat69CM=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:1gbcPleJuTRZcMTOrdoQ7r7+oBg= sha1:DFWkUsSUElU5RctVJkwTsSlGoXA= Bytes: 4021 Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2024-03-13 21:00, Chris wrote: >> Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2024-03-13 09:11, Chris wrote: >>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote: >>>>> On 10.03.24 10:44, Bob Henson wrote: >>>>>> Newyana2 wrote: >>>>>>> At one point I played with crypto a bit. I had to upload a picture >>>>>>> ID (drivers license), as well as giving them my email address and >>>>>>> access to my bank account. As I recall I think they sent a voice >>>>>>> message code to my landline, which is a lot more security in terms of >>>>>>> proof of ID than a cellphone. The lamdline is registered to -- and >>>>>>> wired to -- a physical address. >>>>>> >>>>>> They will struggle in the UK soon, then. All landlines disappear by the end >>>>>> of 2025 - there will only be VoIP. >>>>> >>>>> Hardly ever read so much nonsense. We know Newyana does not have a cell >>>>> phone but he or she wants to have a big mouth in technical groups >>>>> discussing mobile technology. >>>>> >>>>> For you: IP-telephone lines are landlines. Landlines are not what you >>>>> think they are. The backend is even in the UK ip-based for years. >>>> >>>> Do you have evidence for that? It's true that UK telephony has been digital >>>> for a long time within the BT network, but that doesn't mean it's >>>> internet/ip-based. >>> >>> I don't know about UK, but here in Spain all clients on fibre have a >>> VoIP system, hidden. At the home, there is a device called ONT (Optical >>> network terminal), which can be integrated on the router, that converts >>> the phone over IP signals to an RJ-11 where we connect our traditional >>> phone terminals. >>> >>> In fact, companies hide the VoIP credentials so that connecting a VoIP >>> phone instead is not trivial. >>> >>> The stated goal is to remove all copper exchanges, migrating everybody >>> to fibre (or some form of radio). The buildings can then be sold, they >>> are in the city centres and are worth a packet. >>> >>> My understanding is that the UK is doing more or less the same, and many >>> countries are on the same road. Which means that a lot of the current >>> phone network is no longer circuit switched. >> >> I'm aware of that, but that's the recent (domestic) move away from copper >> lines and VOIP. >> >> Jörg's comment was about the backhaul being ip-based for a much longer >> period. > > It is so in his country, to my understanding. > > The Swiss I know have a tendency to think that the changes applied in > their country have also been applied elsewhere :-D Maybe so. He hasn't answered my question so looks he's just assuming. > Like no TV over the air. > >