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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Short Vectors Versus Long Vectors Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:30:29 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 21 Message-ID: <v0inkl$b6s2$2@dont-email.me> References: <v06vdb$17r2v$1@dont-email.me> <j9ah2jl3oosp9ggvdkskqai9m4nme4qkb4@4ax.com> <2024Apr24.111856@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <v0c14g$2ihq5$9@dont-email.me> <v0dgfr$2iai$1@gal.iecc.com> <9bcb44533f8c4285b6a9ffb8429b0b92@www.novabbs.org> <20240425191019.000077c0@yahoo.com> <6911689840f0d560e40c27d6eccf5cfb@www.novabbs.org> <20240425204532.000064a1@yahoo.com> <v0e7as$352ho$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2024 13:30:29 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4d0d5e931b27d0621db2daf0dd9fec39"; logging-data="367490"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18g1IyhE0s/WLH62bCn8maTp78GyHN97O4=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wHQr/v8zxYC/KmOmKpEndSX23BY= Bytes: 1945 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> schrieb: > Say, seemingly no one built an 8/16 bit mainframe, The IBM 360/30 and 360/40 actually had a 8 and 16-bit microarchitecture, respectively. Of course, they hid it cleverly behind the user-visible architecture which was 32 bits. But then, the Nova was a 4-bit system cleverly disguising itself as a 16-bit system, and the Z80 had a 4-bit ALU, as well. > or say using 24-bit > floats (Say: S.E7.F16) rather than bigger formats, ... Konrad Zuse used 22-bit floats. > Like, seemingly, the smallest point of computers was seemingly things > like the 6502 and similar... That was probably the PDP 8/S, which had (if Wikipedia is to be believed) around 519 logic gates. The 6502 had more.