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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Ernest Major <{$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: West Virginia creationism Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 03:45:36 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <v1k1of$14ds7$1@dont-email.me> References: <%AzVN.19359$8tL7.11884@fx09.iad> <n7jd2j1lamelgiq69tvlih4mh708alb8d7@4ax.com> <FtDWN.112651$moa7.28881@fx18.iad> <3n8m2jtvhd0nahms2un4i2gjbt1t6bpbk2@4ax.com> <uca_N.78951$TyYf.63711@fx15.iad> <ajsi3jdfqcr5095itvlrddnskb56h8ihd2@4ax.com> <CAh_N.50541$P_e7.43732@fx09.iad> <q8fj3j5pou54cmk3r73aeirgp4gi8im5qv@4ax.com> <UIB_N.97515$lwqa.97359@fx18.iad> <2e5n3j1u9a0pdcmpd4m78l2dssq3kns552@4ax.com> <c_P_N.74962$Y79f.10441@fx16.iad> <IYydnYbbTcu2dab7nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <jl0o3j9m1683ajej4ilm9husc85rkor3h3@4ax.com> <nGc%N.64238$iMKd.63218@fx12.iad> <U92dnaoPeoxsxKD7nZ2dnZfqlJwAAAAA@giganews.com> Reply-To: {$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="26826"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:7/gD6Ywc8M2y/tG8JU2fWM+/I4M= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 190BF229786; Thu, 09 May 2024 22:45:34 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB439229767 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Thu, 09 May 2024 22:45:31 -0400 (EDT) id 28EDA7D12E; Fri, 10 May 2024 02:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay.zaccari.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AB27D12D for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 10 May 2024 02:45:36 +0000 (UTC) id 1C8F3DC01BA; Fri, 10 May 2024 04:45:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 04:45:35 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <U92dnaoPeoxsxKD7nZ2dnZfqlJwAAAAA@giganews.com> X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX19WnCiYmOr2SxMav7VUIJg5ftv3XjYCHu4PEWjwFGCKMrAxV2h08B4ssjhIf0pB0OGhpaH/ti6gSg== Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 3901 On 10/05/2024 00:19, John Harshman wrote: > On 5/9/24 4:06 PM, Ron Dean wrote: >> Bob Casanova wrote: >>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 14:01:30 -0700, the following appeared in >>> talk.origins, posted by John Harshman >>> <john.harshman@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> On 5/8/24 12:01 PM, Ron Dean wrote: >>>>> What is so incredible is that there is about 1 million >>>>> proteins in the human body each made up of a specific order of amino acids. >>>> >>>> That's certainly incredible. Where did you get that figure? Given that >>>> there are around 20,000 protein-coding genes, that means that each >>>> gene, >>>> on the average, produces around 50 different proteins. >>>> >>> Note the absence of the word "different" in his assertion. >>>> >> I really wasn't clear. But I would have thought that, by "each >> (protein) made up of _specific_ order of amino acids." That would have >> implied, each of the 1 kkk different protein. >> > Where do you get this insane number? > Note that he has now changed his claim from a million to a billion (except that kkk is a sufficiently non-standard usage that he can claim that this means most anything he wants, until he nails an interpretation to the mast). (Past usage, for the ages of the universe and the earth, fitted kkk=billion, but he could claim to be a YEC and that kkk means thousands.) -- alias Ernest Major