Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Frank Slootweg Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: How will the police find me. Date: 21 May 2024 17:31:22 GMT Organization: NOYB Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <9r9l4j1dauquc3vrg6bghhp6cerpsq01a9@4ax.com> X-Trace: individual.net +zSGkHh8anIycbd9acXmdgvh/A2MRwAUHedXQKkSW8BeG3KCaB X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:PsPIZ7T8jeZR3Qdrza/bIJ7wZbY= sha256:Q7XLSKthh88xUbqJ/joXECGU/C2GQDZZOjAYBLpbTQ4= User-Agent: tin/1.6.2-20030910 ("Pabbay") (UNIX) (CYGWIN_NT-10.0-WOW/2.8.0(0.309/5/3) (i686)) Hamster/2.0.2.2 Bytes: 3483 Bill Bradshaw wrote: > Frank Slootweg wrote: > > Bill Bradshaw wrote: > >> micky wrote: > >>> Going hiking tomorrow. Finally realized I was sending my location > >>> to my ex-GF, but I hadn't told her how to see it. Assuming the > >>> worst, that I break my leg and can't get off the trail, but the > >>> phone is broken or stolen, and assuming she actually notices it's > >>> 6PM and I still haven't texted her to say I'm done, she can see my > >>> phone's location using the simple instructions I found on the web. > >> > >> When I am out alone I always run a track on my GPS (not phone) which > >> I can follow back so I do not get lost because I am 78 years old. > >> If you are really worried you should look at something like a Garmin > >> inReach. > > > > We also have an old (non-phone) GPS (Garmin), which can lay > > 'breadcrumbs' for backtracking. Got us out of a mess in outback > > Australia where there was a maze of non-signposted dirt tracks and our > > maps (paper and offline smartphone ones) failed us. > > > > Two-way (text/SMS) satellite communication like the Garmin InReach is > > of course better, but also more expensive, because of the monthly > > costs for the subscription. > > > > When we're in the boonies of Australia, we have a PLB (Personal > > Locator Beacon). That gives only a signal - not a message - and your > > location to the satellite, but doesn't need a costly subscription. > > > > > > I am sending this to you and Andrew. If you do not have cell phone service > how can you send somebody your location and problem? Huh? Please (re-)read my response and reference. As I mentioned, with a PLB you can send a signal - i.e. the fact that you have a severe problem - and your location. As a result, the emergency services will come looking for you (they are required to respond). And no, as I said, with a PLB you can not send a message, so you can not tell *which* problem you have, but the signal indicates that you have a severe problem. I.e. if you trigger the PLB because you're out of beer, you will get a hefty fine and might have to pay all the expenses for the bogus rescue operation. So: A device like the Garmin InReach is more expenswive and has continuous subscription costs. A PLB is cheaper and has no subscription costs, but can not send/receive messages. Nothing has only advantages and no disadvantages and life isn't fair. News at eleven.