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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: D correctly simulated by pure function H cannot possibly reach its, own line 06 Date: Sat, 25 May 2024 17:13:53 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 118 Message-ID: <v2tnr1$32e7p$1@dont-email.me> References: <v2nsvh$1rd65$2@dont-email.me> <v2pg3r$27s2r$2@dont-email.me> <v2qhlc$2dpfr$5@dont-email.me> <v2qihn$1vblq$2@i2pn2.org> <v2qrnf$2fesr$3@dont-email.me> <v2qvar$1vblp$2@i2pn2.org> <v2r1dn$2ge4f$4@dont-email.me> <v2r3r0$2h2l7$1@dont-email.me> <v2r7cq$1vblq$10@i2pn2.org> <v2rpda$2nvot$1@dont-email.me> <v2smub$22aq1$1@i2pn2.org> <v2t8o0$2vna0$3@dont-email.me> <v2t9tj$22aq1$5@i2pn2.org> <v2tajd$2vna0$6@dont-email.me> <v2tdre$22aq1$7@i2pn2.org> <v2tfms$30u1r$3@dont-email.me> <v2tgv2$22aq0$2@i2pn2.org> <v2th6a$319s1$1@dont-email.me> <v2tjpr$22aq1$9@i2pn2.org> <v2tk9i$31qgp$1@dont-email.me> <v2tkit$22aq0$6@i2pn2.org> <v2tl8b$31uo4$2@dont-email.me> <v2tm5d$22aq0$7@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 26 May 2024 00:13:54 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b67ec24a85de95a55e6b4d0cc81926c3"; logging-data="3225849"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/hAoSbWDWdkqUocdfCDTVc" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ygnm8EghvieGgx/dDRwtwzw8+rU= In-Reply-To: <v2tm5d$22aq0$7@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 6070 On 5/25/2024 4:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 5/25/24 5:29 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 5/25/2024 4:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 5/25/24 5:13 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 5/25/2024 4:04 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 5/25/24 4:20 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 5/25/2024 3:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/25/24 3:55 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 5/25/2024 2:23 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 5/25/24 2:27 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> As soon as you first hit the strawman deception >>>>>>>>>> change-the-subject >>>>>>>>>> fake rebuttal I pint this pout and erase everything else that >>>>>>>>>> you say. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Thread renamed to be 100% precisely accurate* >>>>>>>>>> Any divergence from the subject of the thread gets boilerplate >>>>>>>>>> reply. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In other words, you refuse to accept the meaning of your words, >>>>>>>>> admitting that you plan to change them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <snip so that *Usenet Article Lookup* finds the whole message> >>>>>>>> http://al.howardknight.net/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not at all. I simply utterly reject the dishonest dodge >>>>>>>> of the strawman deception change-the-subject rebuttal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> typedef int (*ptr)(); // ptr is pointer to int function in C >>>>>>>> 00 int H(ptr p, ptr i); >>>>>>>> 01 int D(ptr p) >>>>>>>> 02 { >>>>>>>> 03 int Halt_Status = H(p, p); >>>>>>>> 04 if (Halt_Status) >>>>>>>> 05 HERE: goto HERE; >>>>>>>> 06 return Halt_Status; >>>>>>>> 07 } >>>>>>>> 08 >>>>>>>> 09 int main() >>>>>>>> 10 { >>>>>>>> 11 H(D,D); >>>>>>>> 12 return 0; >>>>>>>> 13 } >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The above template refers to an infinite set of H/D pairs where >>>>>>>> D is >>>>>>>> correctly simulated by pure function H. This was done because many >>>>>>>> reviewers used the shell game ploy to endlessly switch which H/D >>>>>>>> pair >>>>>>>> was being referred to. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Correct Simulation Defined* >>>>>>>> This is provided because many reviewers had a different >>>>>>>> notion of >>>>>>>> correct simulation that diverges from this notion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A simulator is an x86 emulator that correctly emulates at >>>>>>>> least one >>>>>>>> of the x86 instructions of D in the order specified by the x86 >>>>>>>> instructions of D. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This may include correctly emulating the x86 instructions of >>>>>>>> H in the >>>>>>>> order specified by the x86 instructions of H thus calling >>>>>>>> H(D,D) in >>>>>>>> recursive simulation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Execution Trace* >>>>>>>> Line 11: main() invokes H(D,D); H(D,D) simulates lines 01, 02, >>>>>>>> and 03 of >>>>>>>> D. This invokes H(D,D) again to repeat the process in endless >>>>>>>> recursive >>>>>>>> simulation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> In other words, you refuse to accept the meaning of your words, >>>>>>> admitting that you plan to change them. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Not at all and you cannot show that I disagree with the above >>>>>> words to the slightest trace of any degree what-so-ever. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Liar Liar Pants on fire? Will assume so until proven otherwise* >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A don't say that you disagree woth them, >>>> >>>> >>> In other words, you refuse to accept the meaning of your words, >>>> YES YOU DID, LOOK AT YOUR OWN WORDS ABOVE. >>>> >>> >>> No, I accept that you want to use your stipulated definition of the >>> words, >> >> Then why the Hell did you say otherwise? >> Then why the Hell did you say otherwise? >> Then why the Hell did you say otherwise? >> Then why the Hell did you say otherwise? >> Then why the Hell did you say otherwise? >> > > > Did you not read what I wrote? > > You need to agree to the implications of those definitions before we can > go on. > You have proven that you do not have the basis to move beyond the subject line of this post. I am unwilling to entertain your baseless assertions. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer