Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: piglet Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Distorted Sine Wave Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2024 22:24:37 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <3lcf5jd7li0a3c0fgddt7o8lnfocvls2pr@4ax.com> <48bd78e1-7da8-3bba-2879-d22962203fa3@electrooptical.net> <9olh5j9al34fhrebr4grqq8h6c8javjpp1@4ax.com> <1n0i5jh257hiinlj2dhaatlo11s33m5n0e@4ax.com> <9k2i5jpfhu3ncfpm28ukusrok4hugal80s@4ax.com> <9tok5j9p388ookujrtbsofskjlbekfuhjb@4ax.com> <60rk5jti9l5154hqaqicohmj3u1lfd16g3@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2024 00:24:38 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8bced55ca9cb076760c6695d7a4bf9db"; logging-data="3155261"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+l4eWn0a76BR6guU8a2j1j" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KV8urD7cY5ZtVNxQlf9u7pcmTjg= sha1:/sFUXMQNka7Zu0lgQ6s/YtnCI2c= Bytes: 3162 piglet wrote: > Cursitor Doom wrote: >> On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 15:44:17 +0200, Jeroen Belleman wrote: >> >>> On 6/1/24 14:07, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> >>>> I've taken a shot of the waveform into the 50 ohm input. It's around >>>> 850mV peak-peak. Hopefully the slight distortion I spoke about is >>>> visible; the slightly more leisurely negative-going excursions WRT >>>> their positive-going counterparts. So it's not a pure sine wave as one >>>> would expect. Does it matter? I don't know! >>>> >>>> https://disk.yandex.com/i/7cuuBimDbOIBZw >>> >>> The shape looks perfectly acceptable to me. This is +3dBm into 50 Ohms. >>> Is that what it's supposed to be? Canned reference oscillators most >>> often deliver +13dBm, sometimes +10dBm. >> >> Is it? I only make it about half your figure: +1.65dBm. >> I admit I'm frequently prone to careless errors, so stand to be corrected, >> but here's my method: >> 850mV peak to peak is 425mV peak voltage. Average of that is 0.425x0.636 = >> 0.27V. Average power is average volts squared divided by the load >> impedance of 50 ohms = 1.46mW = +1.65dBm. >> >> I shall consult the manual to see what it ought to be - if I can find it, >> that is, as PDF manuals are a nightmare to navigate IME. >> >> > > Use 0.71 for RMS instead of 0.636 ! I make that about 1.8mW or +2.6dBm ? > > > Or +2.9dBm if using the 0.88v pk-pk I think is shown in the scope pic rather than the 0.85v figure of your message. -- piglet