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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 19:01:13 -0500
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On 6/22/2024 3:10 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 6/22/24 3:45 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 6/22/2024 2:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 6/22/24 2:53 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 6/22/2024 1:50 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>> Op 22.jun.2024 om 15:11 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a verified fact that the behavior that finite string DDD 
>>>>>> presents
>>>>>> to HH0 is that when DDD correctly simulated by HH0 calls HH0(DDD) 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> this call DOES NOT RETURN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a verified fact that the behavior that finite string DDD 
>>>>>> presents
>>>>>> to HH1 is that when DDD correctly simulated by HH0 calls HH1(DDD) 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> this call DOES RETURN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't get why people here insist on lying about verified facts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We know that 'verified fact' for you means 'my wish'.
>>>>
>>>> Ignoramus?
>>>>
>>>> When we stipulate that the only measure of a correct emulation is 
>>>> the semantics of the x86 programming language then we see that when 
>>>> DDD is correctly emulated by H0 that its call to H0(DDD) cannot 
>>>> possibly return.
>>>>
>>>> _DDD()
>>>> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call H0(DDD)
>>>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
>>>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
>>>> [00002183] c3               ret
>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>
>>>> When we define H1 as identical to H0 except that DDD does not call 
>>>> H1 then we see that when DDD is correctly emulated by H1 that its 
>>>> call to H0(DDD) does return. This is the same behavior as the 
>>>> directly executed DDD().
>>>>
>>>
>>> By a strict interpreation of your measure, this input has UNDEFIINED 
>>> BEHAVIOR, so it is improper to ask about it.
>>>
>>
>> That is a stupid thing to say. The behavior of THE INPUT
>> is specified by the semantics of the x86 programming language.
>>
> 
> Right, so what does a call to a location of memory that doesn't exist do?

Liar

When we stipulate that the only measure of a correct emulation
is the semantics of the x86 programming language then we see
that when DDD is correctly emulated by H0 that its call to
H0(DDD) cannot possibly return.

_DDD()
[00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call H0(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d               pop ebp
[00002183] c3               ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]


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