Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: What Did You Watch? 2024-06-27 (Thursday) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 08:02:25 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 144 Message-ID: References: <437v7j9oc18k3iioqok11fpo7utedo0ifo@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 17:02:25 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f6990f7b1c66b8df919198533c586f10"; logging-data="4179033"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/jtqCykUXXMzXFgxkUDpZN" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:V5OyKvN2DuPKXY6Id5Fbn5sK5u0= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 8321 On 6/29/2024 7:30 AM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote: > On 6/28/2024 10:37 PM, shawn wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:14:29 -0700, Arthur Lipscomb >> wrote: >> >>> On 6/28/2024 2:22 PM, shawn wrote: >>>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 14:14:42 -0700, BTR1701 wrote: >>>> >>>>> In article , >>>>> Arthur Lipscomb wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A Quiet Place: Day One (theatrical) Prequel and third movie in the >>>>>> Quite >>>>>> place franchise. This one shows the events of the Aliens arrival on >>>>>> Earth. One of the things I hate about zombie apocalypse movies where >>>>>> the Earth is overrun by zombies is there's no plausible way that the >>>>>> zombies could overtake humanity. Similarly one of the things that >>>>>> bugged my about the Quiet Place movies is there was never a plausible >>>>>> way the aliens could overtake humanity. >>>>> >>>>> If there were a lot of these things, I could see them doing it. >>>>> They're >>>>> too big, strong, and fast to fight with individual troops, assuming >>>>> humanity could even muster the troops fast enough, but they're not >>>>> large >>>>> enough to take on with things like missiles and nukes, at least not >>>>> without nuking a large part of humanity along with them. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to see how tanks fare against them. >>> >>> So would I!!!  You know what they should do, make a prequel.  Maybe call >>> it something like A Quiet Place: Day One, then show what happens when >>> the aliens first come to Earth.  And in that movie, they could show what >>> happens when the aliens fight a tank.  Just saying... >>> >>> I had a vague memory that maybe they were bullet proof.  But in this >>> movie, no one, ever shoots them!  Not the military, not the police, not >>> random New Yorkers who you would expect to be packing...  New York is >>> famously a city where no one has a gun.  I guess that's why the lead >>> character had to go to sleep for a few hours then wake up once the >>> fighting was over.  Then when I watched the first movie, they pulled out >>> a shot gun, so presumably bullets do work. And what about fire?  Nerve >>> gas?  They sure figured out they can't swim fast enough.  Turn a fire >>> hose on them and see what happens. >>> >>>   Are they strong enough >>>>> to defeat a tank's armor and/or overturn it? Because if not, that's >>>>> about the only thing that could stand toe-to-toe with one long >>>>> enough to >>>>> put effective fire on it. >>>>> >>>>>> This movie promised to deliver >>>>>> that answer. Instead the aliens show up. The main character hits her >>>>>> head or something and is unconscious for a few *hours* at best, then >>>>>> when she awakes the aliens have already overtaken humanity. There are >>>>>> millions of people in New York City yet they all magically >>>>>> disappeared >>>>>> per plot. And now somehow the entire city is totally silent except >>>>>> for >>>>>> when the plot demands someone make a sound then that's the only >>>>>> sound. >>>>>> And the aliens who were no where to be found suddenly all converge on >>>>>> that location. I was really expecting more from this movie but it's >>>>>> more of the same. But I guess fans of the first two who aren't >>>>>> expecting any real answers should like it. >>>>> >>>>> My problem with the whole premise of the franchise is that these >>>>> aliens >>>>> seem to instantly home in on any sound so long as the sound is made >>>>> by a >>>>> person. Nature is naturally full of all sorts of sounds, which you >>>>> would >>>>> think would constantly drive the creatures nuts trying to attack and >>>>> kill the birds that are flying overhead cawing or the ocean breakers >>>>> crashing on the shoreline or the trees rubbing together in the >>>>> wind. But >>>>> none of that bothers or attracts them. The moment a human so much as >>>>> snaps a twig underfoot, suddenly these beasts are streaking toward >>>>> them >>>>> to attack. >>>>> >>> >>> It would have to be even worse in a city like New York.  How would the >>> aliens even differentiate human from mechanical sound.  How would people >>> even figure out that they are attracted by noise when there are so many >>> other sounds at the same time conveniently being ignored? >> >> So they only hunted by sound? Haven't seen the movies so I don't know. >>> > > I don't think the aliens even have eyes.  That part is not entirely > clear.  People are often standing out in the open then a slight sound > and the aliens instantly know where the person is located.  The way it's > shown the alien ninja jump out of nowhere and tackle the person so it's > unclear if the alien would spot the person if they moved somewhere else. >  The aliens never go after the other humans standing nearby unless > those humans start to make noise. > >>>>> I wish Clod was still around to explain how sound works like >>>>> electricity >>>>> and the aliens are only attracted to artificial sound, not natural >>>>> sound. >>>> >>>> If so imagine setting up a swarm of drones flying around. Going to be >>>> hard to track down the humans when there are many drones buzzing >>>> around in the air where the aliens could see/hear them but not be able >>>> to reach them. >>> >>> >>> I kept waiting for something like that to happen.  I don't understand >>> why the military didn't just herd the aliens to a location using sound >>> then kill them. >> >> I like the idea I saw in an episode of Z Nation where they herded an >> entire hoard of Z's over the Grand Canyon. Certainly something similar >> could be done with aliens. Any near the Niagara Falls should be >> completely confused and easy enough to guide over the falls. >> >> Hell, if these aliens are so sensitive to sound why can't they use the >> sonic weapons against them. I mean the sort that the military has like >> the LRAD. Even at low levels that should be powerful enough to hurt >> the aliens, let alone if the power was turned up. > > > Yes, sonic weapons are eventually introduced in the sequel.  But it > should have been introduced in the prequel. > > Something to be aware of since you've not watched the movies is the > aliens are not technologically advanced. They are essentially wild > animals let loose on Earth, I'm guessing by a more advance species to > clear the planet for them.  They are big, fast, strong enough to easily > knock over a car.  But no real intelligence or strategy. > > Imagine if someone dropped 1000 hungry lions in the middle of New York. > They run amok and kill a lot of people, but people with guns would kill > the lions and that would be that.  So far I have not seen any reason why > the same couldn't happen with these aliens. Because it is a horror movie? -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.