Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Expedition to Europa Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 14:50:33 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <63br7jpf7le468rnljlfhaol4432dt70lq@4ax.com> <667f96cb$0$2873004$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 23:50:47 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2c0b654a66bceec8b8c072ac20cb2fd5"; logging-data="119897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18mCAV9fdbbF1EnJiWQNYWa" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:JTXsgjxML6qObSAlmI2VWajoHXk= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 1993 On 6/29/2024 2:41 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote: > The claim being made was that because we were not seeing any > intelligent aliens, they must not exist, or are very rare. Which does > not follow. ... or, we don't know how to recognize them (see _... WHERE IS EVERYBODY?_) > Even if they do have warp drives, they may still send a robot. > > But given the technological gulf between Earthlings and any > civilization possessing any warp drive, we won't detect them unless > they want us to. The issue presented in _Remembrances ..._ Note many "scholars" have warned that we probably shouldn't WANT to be "discovered"