Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris Ahlstrom Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Find "py.exe" & copy it to "Python" (flat, no extension). Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:02:09 -0400 Organization: None Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: <23JeO.16235$BRt3.6532@fx05.iad> <7i6q7j5r5knc225vrf1bj1sq7bi0e4ktd9@4ax.com> <8dkt7j9koe99hehm6fukkeitojtf9h34bc@4ax.com> Reply-To: OFeem1987@teleworm.us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 02:02:10 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5c4ffaebe19bfcc1eea19b2b32bb60c0"; logging-data="180551"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ZHIn101KK+o1ufO4qgj02" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6sj7dc9aGabQoLlkT6C8t/+ddAc= X-Mutt: The most widely-used MUA X-Slrn: Why use anything else? X-User-Agent: Microsoft Outl00k, Usenet K00k Editions Bytes: 3597 Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 04:12:34 -0400, Joel wrote: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> if life is too complex to have arisen by itself, then it must >>>>>>>>> have required some prior agency to create it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>But surely, this agency must have been even more complex, must it >>>>>>>>>not? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm a theist, yes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>So how could this creator agency have arisen by itself? >>>>>> >>>>>> That's the mystery. >>>>> >>>>>Let me get this straight. >>>>> >>>>>You postulate some complexity threshold, such that any phenomenon >>>>>whose complexity lies above this threshold could not plausibly have >>>>>arisen by itself. >>>>> >>>>>You claim life lies above this threshold. >>>>> >>>>>You realize that any prior agency that gave rise to life must also lie >>>>>above this threshold. >>>>> >>>>>So you create some kind of exemption from this threshold for the prior >>>>>agency, that you will not extend to life itself? >>> >>>Tbat’s four separate assumptions, none of which are backed up by >>>evidence. >>> >>>That’s called “circular reasoning”. >> >> Figure it out. > > It was the assumption of some insurmountable complexity threshold that is > the problem. Either nothing can surmount that threshold, or anything can. > So assuming the existence of that threshold, and that life lies in the > forbidden region, leads logically to the conclusion that the forbidden > region is not so forbidden after all. > > This contradicts the original assumption of the existence of such a > complexity threshold, which therefore must be false. > > This is called “proof by reduction ad absurdum”. QED. > > As they say, “your move, creep”. I always wondered if God can make a wall so high He can't throw a truck over it. -- Ships are safe in harbor, but they were never meant to stay there.