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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Resurrection of a venerable SF trope - Planet 4.5 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 11:15:51 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <v615j7$1maki$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 17:15:52 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dd3e3d5fdb75acf0b78bfe9baa159795"; logging-data="1780370"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/1CmVD6U2zEMmiJwMhv3BsUPwEzHil8Q4=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:mxrj+63yTlsaQxWSUIHm63abLl0= Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2271 Ever since Bode's Law was formulated in the 18th century, and especially after the discovery of Ceres in 1801, there has been speculation about an unknown planet between Mars and Jupiter. When the extent of the asteroid belt was found, this extended to the idea that the asteroids were the remnants of an earlier planet that was somehow destroyed. A number of SF stories used this trope - up to and including, iirc, '2001'. Later science would settle on the notion that the asteroids were never a planet, they were left over unconsolidated material from the formation of the solar system. In the last year, we finally got back some pristine sample of asteroid material, from Bennu. Very recently some early research results were published. To everyone's surprise, the minerals found included serpentine. a mineral which forms underwater. https://www.nasa.gov/missions/osiris-rex/surprising-phosphate-finding-in-nasas-osiris-rex-asteroid-sample/ This suggests that Bennu was once part of a planet, big enough to support liquid water. Not neccesarily on the surface, but perhaps as a ice-over ocean, similar the Jovian moons. So, there really *was* a planet 4.5, between Mars and Jupiter. An old tool in the SF authors toolbox can be used again. pt