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From: "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the
 semantics of the x86 language
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 21:15:36 +0200
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Op 03.jul.2024 om 20:59 schreef olcott:
> On 7/3/2024 1:46 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>> Op 03.jul.2024 om 20:37 schreef olcott:
>>> On 7/3/2024 1:25 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>> Op 03.jul.2024 om 19:58 schreef olcott:
>>>>> On 7/3/2024 12:51 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>> Op 03.jul.2024 om 18:03 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
>>>>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
>>>>> [00002183] c3               ret
>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>>
>>>>>>> DDD is correctly emulated by HHH which calls an emulated HHH(DDD)
>>>>>>> to repeat this process an endless number of times until aborted
>>>>>>> or out-of-memory error.
>>>>>> Anyone knowing the x86 language knows that a program cannot be 
>>>>>> programmed to do two different things
>>>>>> It cannot do both run out of memory *and* abort.
>>>>>
>>>>> DDD correctly emulated by any element of the infinite
>>>>> set of every pure function HHH cannot possibly reach
>>>>> its own ret instruction and halt. 
>>>>
>>>> Exactly! Well done! This proves that HHH cannot possibly correctly 
>>>> simulate itself. If it aborts, it does so one cycle too soon.
>>>>
>>>
>>> My system of reasoning could be used to make a chatbot
>>> that would make all the propagandists look foolish even
>>> to themselves. The alternative is the destruction of the
>>> planet to earn a couple of more bucks.
>>>
>>> This is not some little game that can be played for
>>> trollish sadism. It has consequences.
>>>
>>
>> I appreciate this motivation, but it does not help to make the 
>> simulation correct. Better try something that can help, instead of 
>> spoiling your time with something that does not work as you expected.
> 
> That you lie about how it works does not mean it doesn't work.
> 

You are too soon with the words lie and liar. It does not contribute to 
a honest discussion.
That you hope that it works, does not mean that it works, even when your 
hope is based on an appreciated motivation.