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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Olcott seems to be willfully ignorant Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 07:37:19 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 97 Message-ID: <v6651v$2oun1$1@dont-email.me> References: <v5vkun$1b0k9$1@dont-email.me> <v60dci$1ib5p$1@dont-email.me> <v60red$1kr1q$2@dont-email.me> <v61hn7$1oec9$1@dont-email.me> <v61ipa$1og2o$2@dont-email.me> <v61jod$1oec9$2@dont-email.me> <v61leu$1p1uo$1@dont-email.me> <7b6a00827bfcc84e99e19a0d0ae6028ebcdc263c@i2pn2.org> <v620vu$1qutj$2@dont-email.me> <f6e8f5de9a1e61c7970a92145ce8c1f9087ba431@i2pn2.org> <v628ts$1s632$1@dont-email.me> <178edf6a7c5329df35a9af6852ecbd41c0948ea1@i2pn2.org> <v629mp$1s632$3@dont-email.me> <168858894febbaa529d1704ea864bbe15cb8f635@i2pn2.org> <v62bgv$1s632$6@dont-email.me> <211a07c98d1fc183ed3e6c079ec1e883dd45f1cc@i2pn2.org> <v62f92$20moo$3@dont-email.me> <623debd817e63a256100bb15fed3af8d4fb969fe@i2pn2.org> <v62hc7$20moo$6@dont-email.me> <e3c734b6a1ce3386210f7700bf03d183334d4d55@i2pn2.org> <v63jkc$26loi$7@dont-email.me> <v65emv$2l5il$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 14:37:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8ec8ab09a9c087279b96ae2505557d8c"; logging-data="2915041"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/bJ56fHEG76SSSKjUp8Gor" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:q+Mo90T6f565rFucZRr/n4xOJFM= In-Reply-To: <v65emv$2l5il$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 5314 On 7/4/2024 1:15 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-07-03 13:27:40 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 7/3/2024 6:44 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 7/2/24 11:43 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 7/2/2024 10:23 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 7/2/24 11:07 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 7/2/2024 9:35 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> On 7/2/24 10:03 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 8:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 7/2/24 9:32 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 8:25 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/24 9:18 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Professor Sipser probably does understand the x86 language. >>>>>>>>>>>> Shared-memory implementation of the Karp-Sipser >>>>>>>>>>>> kernelization process >>>>>>>>>>>> https://inria.hal.science/hal-03404798/file/hipc2021.pdf >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And the x86 language says the same thing, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> YOU are just a liar, as proved by the fact that you can not >>>>>>>>>>> give the Diagonalization proof you claimed you had. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, you are just too stupid to understand. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You continue to assume that you can simply disagree >>>>>>>>>> with the x86 language. My memory was refreshed that >>>>>>>>>> called you stupid would be a sin according to Christ. >>>>>>>>>> I really want to do the best I can to repent. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But I am NOT disagreeing with the x86 language. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can you point out what fact of it I am disagreing about it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You keep trying to get away with saying that the simulation is >>>>>>>> incorrect when the semantics of the x86 language conclusively >>>>>>>> proves that it is correct. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope, and x86n emulation is only fully correct if it continues to >>>>>>> the final end. >>>>>> >>>>>> void Infinite_Loop() >>>>>> { >>>>>> HERE: goto HERE; >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> Why do you say such ridiculously stupid things that you are are >>>>>> false? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And the only CORRECT EMULATION of that program is to infiniately >>>>> loop in the emulation. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Not for a freaking termination analyzer nitwit. >>> >>> Why do they get to lie? >>> >>>> >>>>> Nothing says that you can't make a halt decider work with partial >>>>> emulation for SOME inputs. But the halt Decider just isn't itself a >>>>> fully correct emulator. >>>>> >>>> >>>> You keep stupidly saying that less than an infinite emulation is an >>>> incorrect emulation. Why do you keep stupidly doing that? >>>> >>> >>> Because it is. Partial emulations only show partial truth, and truth >>> is the whole truth and nothing but the truth. >>> >>> BEHAVIOR needs the FULL description of what happens. >>> >> >> Why do you keep lying about this? >> As soon as HHH has seen a repeating state it has seen enough. > > No, it has not. When it sees a repeating state first time there is no way > to know that it is a repeating state. You are incompetent > That can be determined only when > the same state is seen again and then only if the state as seen the first > time is still fully remembered or reconstructed. > > You have not proven that every detail of the state is inculded in > determination. > -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer