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From: Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid>
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Subject: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 06:26:10 +0100
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Le 29/07/2024 à 22:24, Rich Ulrich a écrit :
> Hibou wrote:
>>
>> I've been called stupid countless times, especially in Usenet fora, and
>> met many who have clung to demonstrably false beliefs (dear old
>> fr.soc.religion in its heyday!) - too many, I think, to infer that they
>> were all suffering from some syndrome or other. It's just human nature,
>> innit?
> 
> I will repeat, neurotypicals (NTs) and Aspies overlap a lot. But when
> a person shows a bunch of separate, rare traits ...

I don't think clinging to debating positions is rare, and dismissing 
critics as stupid or liars is one way of doing so. (It reminds me of 
dictatorships.)

> that is what
> adds up to a diagnosis. And, How often does a behavior show up?
>   
> I counted at one time -- in a month, Bob called 11 different people
> Stupid or Liar.  Or it might have been about that many for each
> word (it's been a long time). Do you excuse that as 'human nature'?

I don't excuse it at all.

> I found myself interacting with him a lot because I had sort of taken
> on the task of a monitor in the stats groups,

A self-appointed moderator?

> and he was prone to
> (even) start out, like, "You must be stupid to ask THAT."  This was
> from a guy who spent his working life as a college professor who
> was not well liked by his students (and there is another story,
> there).

He appears to have been a big influence in your life.

>>> I don't know how much of their problem is created or influenced
>>> by the aftermath of their own social ineptness -- a feature
>>> have not been discussing. The Usenet autism group once posted
>>> a note by a woman who said that her child's kindergarten teacher
>>> praised the daughter for her 'maturity' since she never joined in
>>> when kids were bullying or hassling. The teacher did not
>>> recognize that the daughter was not mature, she simply did not
>>> UNDERSTAND why the  bullying was taking place; she did not
>>> join in automatically, because she did not fit in.
>>>
>>> Aspies are not insulted by the same things neurotypicals
>>> consider insulting, so they make social mistakes. They get called
>>> Stupid or Liar when they claim they did not UNDERSTAND that
>>> someone would (or would not) be offended by something.
>>> " - Okay, you insulted my shirt.  My mama picked it out, not me.
>>> Why should I be offended?"  Or the Aspie might insult a shirt,
>>> while imagining they were offering a trivial observation. [...]
>>
>> Goodness me! I am learning a lot. (I have Asperger's myself.)
> 
> You're welcome?

Do please continue. I'm eager to learn more.