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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Any honest person that knows the x86 language can see... predict
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On 7/30/2024 9:51 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> Op 30.jul.2024 om 16:21 schreef olcott:
>> On 7/30/2024 1:52 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-29 14:07:53 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> HHH(Infinite_Recursion) and HHH(DDD) show the same non-halting
>>>> behavior pattern in their derived execution traces of their
>>>> inputs.
>>>
>>> Hard to believe as their behaviour is so different and you don't
>>> say what pattern the see. 
>>
>> *Its all in the part that you erased*
>>
>> *Infinite_Recursion correctly emulated by HHH*
>> *THREE lines repeat with no conditional branch instructions*
>> Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation   Execution Trace Stored at:113934
>> [0000215a][00113924][00113928] 55         push ebp      ; 1st line
>> [0000215b][00113924][00113928] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; 2nd line
>> [0000215d][00113920][00002162] e8f8ffffff call 0000215a ; 3rd line
>> [0000215a][0011391c][00113924] 55         push ebp      ; 1st line
>> [0000215b][0011391c][00113924] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; 2nd line
>> [0000215d][00113918][00002162] e8f8ffffff call 0000215a ; 3rd line
>> Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped
>>
>> *DDD correctly emulated by HHH*
>> *FOUR lines repeat with no conditional branch instructions*
>> Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation   Execution Trace Stored at:113895
>> [00002177][00113885][00113889] 55         push ebp      ; 1st line
>> [00002178][00113885][00113889] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; 2nd line
>> [0000217a][00113881][00002177] 6877210000 push 00002177 ; push DDD
>> [0000217f][0011387d][00002184] e853f4ffff call 000015d7 ; call HHH
>> [00002177][0015e2ad][0015e2b1] 55         push ebp      ; 1st line
>> [00002178][0015e2ad][0015e2b1] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; 2nd line
>> [0000217a][0015e2a9][00002177] 6877210000 push 00002177 ; push DDD
>> [0000217f][0015e2a5][00002184] e853f4ffff call 000015d7 ; call HHH
>> Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped
>>
>>
> 
> We all see the differences between these two. 

They both correctly predict behavior that must be aborted to
prevent the infinite execution of the simulating halt decider.

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