Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock Newsgroups: comp.lang.prolog Subject: Re: Holy Grail makes People Disappear [like Robert Staerk, now Ulrich Neumerkel?] Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 09:08:15 +0200 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 07:08:14 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="1239142"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:XfvbnxIXJL3Q+PUVxisZEHIgxhM= X-User-ID: eJwNyMkBwCAMA7CVIImNGafNsf8IrZ6CczNPEAwMhiWI9sb0TWURcaHbsZPj1ny8Bc6RT25zA/70WgtW8v4ARMoUxw== In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2446 Lines: 46 Hi, What boosted at that time automated Program verification, and maybe a broader use of Stärks approach was the Java virtual machine. A lot of papers poped up at that time, doing something with JVM and automated program verification. Also from that time: A security logic for abstract state machines https://www.research-collection.ethz.ch/handle/20.500.11850/68777 Axioms for strict and lazy functional programs https://www.research-collection.ethz.ch/handle/20.500.11850/68772 Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > Hi, > > I remember Robert Stärk's disappearing from > academic life at ETH Zurich all of a sudden. > Did Ulrich Neumerkel now also disappeared not > > because the Scryer Prolog disaster, but after > he figured out that failure slices are not hip > enought? What could be more hip, are the modalities > > of Robert Stärk's logic more hip now and even useful? > > Automated Theorem Proving for Prolog Verification > Fred Mesnard etc.. May 2024 > https://lim.univ-reunion.fr/staff/fred/Publications/24-MesnardMP-slides.pdf > > Disclaimer: I am not deep into this theory, > it has some ingredients that were floating around > the 80's / 80's, not only in the millieau of ETH Zurich, > > but also in the vincinity of Gehard Jaeger, Bern. > There are many alternative formalizations that > can express termination etc.. But maybe LPTP is > > especially suited for Prolog?