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From: Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please>
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Subject: Re: another hint of quantum consciousness
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 21:18:44 +0200
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On 9/14/24 20:08, john larkin wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 19:36:35 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/14/24 17:13, john larkin wrote:
>>>
>>> https://scitechdaily.com/groundbreaking-study-affirms-quantum-basis-for-consciousness-a-paradigm-shift-in-understanding-human-nature/
>>>
>>> Interesting way to define consciousness, the thing that goes away when
>>> an a general anesthetic is applied. That can be quantified.
>>>
>>
>> I paraphrase: "Since we don't know how it works, it must be quantum".
> 
> Or, more conventionally, "It can't be quantum because QM only works at
> liquid helium temperatures."
> 
>> That's it then: Quantum-something is merely religion. The god of the
>> gaps.
>>
>> There's a lot of quantum nonsense about. This is just one example.
>>
> 
> Well, explain how we can name one image out of maybe a million stored
> images, in a fraction of a second.
> 

Yes, that's the typical comeback of religious believers.

I don't know how it works. Let's find out. AI seems to be
getting there, and it requires no quantum theory. Just loads
of data and a lot of matrix math.

Jeroen Belleman