Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Thomas Koenig Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Computer architects leaving Intel... Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 12:38:32 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <2024Aug30.161204@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <86r09ulqyp.fsf@linuxsc.com> <2024Sep8.173639@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Sep10.101932@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Sep11.123824@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <867cbhgozo.fsf@linuxsc.com> <20240912142948.00002757@yahoo.com> <865xqzg63u.fsf@linuxsc.com> <20240913144411.00005866@yahoo.com> <20240914215922.000033d1@yahoo.com> <20240915001939.00003be0@yahoo.com> <20240915125006.00006e78@yahoo.com> Injection-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 14:38:32 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dfdaa283757e28faec81646b8d09aaa1"; logging-data="2287270"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19M/sPoqedL7t4XAGwzKGFRCTYrKWrUef0=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:s1th+uUaXmYv3s178xElexcgQy4= Bytes: 2131 On 2024-09-15, Michael S wrote: > You seem to think that C should be as optimizable and as full of UBs as > Fortran. The only place where "undefined behavior" is mentioned in the Fortran standards is with reference to C. > Many compiler authors agree with you. > I have different idea. You don't appear to believe in specifications. >iIMHO, your party exploits the letter of C > standard in violation to its spirit. If you meet the spirit of the C standard, say hello to him for me.