Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.in-chemnitz.de!news.swapon.de!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 20:53:44 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <2935676af968e40e7cad204d40cafdcf@www.novabbs.org> <2024Sep18.074007@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Sep18.220953@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 22:53:44 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2c7e13dca6d3b404af04090a5ecd8e97"; logging-data="757022"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+oSDncwnot5PZ7Bsipld4a" User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:WyTG+MxHPZJ8v8NwZ19l+ZrnO9w= Bytes: 2552 On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 12:59:42 +0200, Terje Mathisen wrote: > From my recent reading, it seems like factoring 21 (5 bits) requires at > least 5+10=15 bits all staying entangled, plus a number of additional > bits for error correction. The noise factor was something the original ideas about quantum computers had not taken into account. But it’s pretty obvious why it happens: “quantum” computing was something thought up by people who took the “many worlds” interpretation of quantum theory just a little too seriously: if you could take advantage of “superposition of states” to run your computation simultaneously across multiple alternate universes, you could access a whole lot more computing power! The reason why it doesn’t work is because of conservation of energy. Accessing those hypothetical “alternate universes” requires spreading the same amount of energy more thinly. And that’s where the noise comes from. So ultimately there will be no way to get rid of it. And that’s why I say “quantum” computing (at least for number-theoretic operations) is “trying to get something for nothing”. Ultimately that won’t work.