Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 23:43:15 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <2935676af968e40e7cad204d40cafdcf@www.novabbs.org> <2024Sep18.074007@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Sep18.220953@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <8dd349cc71da714ade8dbe2c0396f338@www.novabbs.org> <52a12987878964bbb90270b16f01e8b4@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 01:43:16 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e114a577b81d0eff5431452080854aaa"; logging-data="818374"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Sl4kp1i0dyVZuzYFu2fYi" User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:i0EC+w+K5TE7l5SJtttfciE7kSA= Bytes: 2595 On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 21:35:41 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 20:48:38 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 16:23:09 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: >> >>> I am convinced that quantum computers will eventually be good at some >>> things that regular computers are not and cannot be. >> >> They are currently having some success in physical-optimization >> problems, with precision limits. That means they are basically just a >> revival of the old analog computers: fast at solving physical-related >> problems, but with much less precision than digital computers. > > They seem to be rather exceptional at protein folding compared to > classical computing. That’s an example of what I what I would call “physical optimization”: the system can “feel” its way down the energy gradient just due to random fluctuations in the state of the physical variables. The algorithms for doing this were called “simulated annealing”, back in the day. Actually nowadays some AI engines (digitally programmed, not quantum) may be beating the quantum computers on protein folding, too.