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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: is Vax addressing sane today Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2024 00:43:56 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: <vdsmgb$ukl1$3@dont-email.me> References: <2024Oct3.085754@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <memo.20241003234930.19028I@jgd.cix.co.uk> <2024Oct4.170717@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2024 02:43:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2984c2f13757de48e2f7497d28a8ed5d"; logging-data="1004193"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/6D06oZwMLM9xBhcmo40oq" User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UmP9FxvBq9BgK7AQnCcyAVD3ssg= Bytes: 2019 On Fri, 04 Oct 2024 15:07:17 GMT, Anton Ertl wrote: > Power still survives, maybe only because it has a common basis with > iSeries (or whatever it is called now). As I understand it, iSeries is the emulation of the old AS/400 on POWER processors. And AS/400 was the unification of the older System/38 with the System/34? System/36? lines. System/38 (or AS/400, or iSeries) has/had this interestingly unusual architecture which builds database features right into the OS kernel, so that they can be used everywhere. And it also uses capabilities as an alternative to the traditional privilege-mode hierarchy. Neither of these ideas says much for performance, but they still suggest some interesting possibilities, nonetheless. Native POWER is, I think, called pSeries. It continues to sell in its own right because it offers high performance--high enough to earn a few ongoing spots near the top of the Top500 supercomputer list.