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All comments sent or posted will be assumed authorized for inclusion unless otherwise noted. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send mail to eleeper@optonline.net The latest issue is at . An index with links to the issues of the MT VOID since 1986 is at . Topics: The Great Courses: "A Historian Goes to the Movies: Ancient Rome" (Part 4: The Revival) (GLADIATOR, ROME (HBO), CENTURION, THE EAGLE) (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper) Hammer Versus Universal DVD Releases (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper) ALIEN CLAY by Adrian Tchaikovsky (book review by Joe Karpierz) AGE OF REVOLUTIONS (letter of comment by Gary McGath) This Week's Reading (CHINA DREAMS: GROWING UP JEWISH IN TIENTSIN, "Historia Augusta", A.D. 69: EMPERORS, ARMIES & ANARCHY) (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper) =================================================================== TOPIC: The Great Courses: "A Historian Goes to the Movies: Ancient Rome" (Part 4: The Revival) (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper) GLADIATOR (2000): The nano-summary is that it was very popular, very profitable, and very inaccurate. The state of the Germanic wars at the beginning is wrong, the idea that Marcus Aurelius was promoting someone other than Commodus as his successor is wrong(*), the brevity of Commodus's reign is wrong, and the implication of the return of the Republic at the end is definitely wrong. (*) Whatever Commodus's flaws were--and they were many--and whether Marcus Aurelius was aware of them, he really only had three choices: name his son Commodus as his successor, name someone else and pretty much guarantee a civil ware after he died, or kill Commodus. Stoic he may have been, but not *that* Stoic. On finer details, the film gets Marcus Aurelius's appearance with a beard correct, along with his philosophy, but not his age or health. Commodus's psychological state was correct, but his appearance all wrong. While they did pretty well on the Colosseum, the training of gladiators, as well as their costumes, weapons, and fighting styles were wrong, as were the army's battle tactics, armor, and weapons. In fact, the professor hired as a historical advisor for the film asked to have her name removed from the credits when she discovered that her function was to provide support for what the filmmakers wanted to do (e.g., have female gladiators who fought with razor blades on their nipples) rather than to help them get the film to be accurate. In summary, GLADIATOR was more true to the stereotypes of ancient Rome than to actual history. ROME (HBO) (2005): Aldrete began by saying that the first few episodes of HBO's "Rome" are the best depiction of ancient Rome on screen. Yes, it takes liberties and has anachronisms, but it is still the best at depicting religion, slavery, politics, and all aspects of Roman life, Especially for the non-elite. For example, "Rome" depicts Roman religion as a transactional relationship ("I'll give you a sacrifice; you give me what I am asking for"), not a request for altruism (as in Christianity). It's also a part of everyday life, with various gods for various purposes, and goes along with ancestral masks, divination, and curse tablets, all of which Aldrete says are accurately portrayed. Slaves are not treated empathetically by masters as they often are in other films, but more as furniture. Yes, slaves could wield power, but they were also treated inhumanely. Also, the line between free and slave was permeable, as shown by the character of Posca. Women are accurately portrayed as being used as tools in politics; other tools include rumor and slander (graffiti). (Although taking a hint from Livia in I, CLAUDIUS, the filmmakers have *two* scheming women.) "Rome" also showed the collegia (which Aldrete described as a combination of trade organization and proto-mafia--sounds like some of the trade unions here, at least at one point), and the patron/client relationship, Aldrete also thought that the characterizations of Antony and the teenaged Octavian were good, although with too much sex and violence. And there is no evidence that the Romans used opium or hemp as recreational drugs. In short, "Rome" presents a grungy Rome that, as someone described to Aldrete, was "not accurate, but authentic." CENTURION (2010): Both this and THE EAGLE deal with the legend of the lost Ninth Legion in Britain. (There was a third, THE LAST LEGION (2007), but it was more of a fantasy film about Arthurian legend.) In terms of the historical incident, all three films are more inspired by 1954 Rosemary Sutcliffe YA novel THE EAGLE OF THE NINTH than my historical records. Theodor Mommsen pretty much started the legend by combining the disappearance of the Ninth from historical records and a report of a large number of Romans having been killed by the Britons. But there seem to be records of the Ninth in the Netherlands after this slaying, so it is more likely that it became undermanned and was disbanded. CENTURION has a fair number of inaccuracies: flaming arrows in a night attack (which would be counter-productive and how woudl they light them anyway?), and giant flaming balls that are shot through a forest, missing all the trees and hitting all the Romans. There are many accuracies (or perhaps "authenticities" is better), many drawn from the actual Battle of Teutoberg Forest over a hundred years earlier. Many of the names are homages to real Romans. There is no CGI, so everything looks real. It may be inaccurate in parts, but Aldrete says it is a solid adventure/war movie. The director says one inspiration was Walter Hill's THE WARRIORS, which in turn was a modern retelling of Xenophon. THE EAGLE (2011): THE EAGLE is more closely based on the Sutcliffe novel. It has accuracies in the use of the testudo and Roman short swords, and is perhaps unique in portraying the worship of Mithras, an Eastern God popular among soldiers. (Mithraism also shows up in the alternate history novel A DRAGON WAITING by John M. Ford, about an England where Byzantium never fell.) [-ecl] =================================================================== TOPIC: Hammer Versus Universal DVD Releases (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper) When Universal packaged their classic monster series, they first issued each series as a single boxed set (with some adjustments for cross-over films). Then they did a Bluray set of all the initial films, plus BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN (and PHANTOM OF THE OPERA, otherwise very hard to find at the time). Hammer, however, had no real plan. Take the "Frankenstein" films; here's how we have them: - CURSE OF FRANKENSTEIN: issued as a double feature with TASTE THE BLOOD OF DRACULA - THE REVENGE OF FRANKENSTEIN: issued as a stand-alone - EVIL OF FRANKENSTEIN: issued in the set "Hammer Horror Series" - FRANKENSTEIN CREATED WOMAN: issued as a double feature with LEGEND OF THE 7 GOLDEN VAMPIRES and in the "Hammer Feature Film Set" - FRANKENSTEIN MUST BE DESTROYED: issued as a stand-alone - FRANKENSTEIN AND THE MONSTER FROM HELL: issued as a stand-alone And that isn't even addressing the irregular use of "The" in the titles. [-ecl] ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========