Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!news.szaf.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.xcski.com!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: AI constructing functional genomes Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:38:25 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 58 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: References: <435101d7-bf4f-43f5-951e-34c5e2698580@gmail.com> Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="55490"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:5VD5c6hNLrJ2fBPB+TZys29DhNM= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 8DB97229782; Tue, 19 Nov 2024 18:38:33 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 497EC229765 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2024 18:38:31 -0500 (EST) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.98) for talk-origins@moderators.isc.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1tDXnh-00000001jBJ-2Mzs; Wed, 20 Nov 2024 00:38:29 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DA2A5F8D3 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2024 23:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/4DA2A5F8D3; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 65A28DC01A9; Wed, 20 Nov 2024 00:38:26 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 00:38:26 +0100 (CET) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1//x6xVVU3T4UPoP01D3VwfuR2esTGarig= FREEMAIL_FORGED_REPLYTO,FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED, USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 5238 On 11/19/2024 3:30 PM, Zen Cycle wrote: > On 11/16/2024 7:40 PM, erik simpson wrote: >> On 11/16/24 3:23 PM, RonO wrote: >>> On 11/16/2024 3:53 PM, erik simpson wrote: >>>> On 11/16/24 1:41 PM, RonO wrote: >>>>> https://www.science.org/content/article/meet-evo-dna-trained-ai- >>>>> creates-genomes-scratch >>>>> >>>>> Some researchers have developed a program that will construct >>>>> functional genomes.  That is the hype claim of this Science news >>>>> article. >>>>> >>>>> The program supposedly can predict what amino acid changes for a >>>>> protein will do to it's function, so it could produce a lifeform >>>>> with the phenotype that it wanted to create. >>>>> >>>>> They claim that they did not use any human pathogens to train their >>>>> AI, so that terrorists should not be able to use it to construct >>>>> bio weapons. >>>>> >>>>> The current program is for bacteria.  If they produce a similar >>>>> program for vertebrates we could use it to predict the phenotypic >>>>> change of amino acid substitutions in livestock species and for >>>>> diagnosis of human genetic diseases.  It could lead to diagnosis >>>>> for humans and for gene editing targets for breeding animals. >>>>> >>>>> The researchers claim their goals are to study evolution of life >>>>> forms. >>>>> >>>>> Ron Okimoto >>>>> >>>> Learning which gene are expressed where is one thing.  Being able to >>>> predict what changes would happen if you tweak them is a whole nother >>>> >>> >>> They claim that they can make that prediction.  There is already an >>> AI program that can determine the structure of a protein based on >>> it's amino acid sequence.  They likely combined that with functional >>> data. >>> >>> Ron Okimoto >>> >> AI will be the death of us all. > >  “I for one welcome our new computer overlords.” - Ken Kennings > > The "artists" involved in making TV commercials are protesting Coca Cola's use of AI to produce their latest commercial. They think that AI endangers their livelihood and cheapens their art. My guess is that pretty soon AI will be composing pop songs geared to the desired audiences. Boston claimed that they used their own intelligence to determine what people liked in rock songs to create their music. AI can do that better and more accurately determine what someone likes to listen to. Ron Okimoto