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From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Two more California Dairy workers confirmed to be H5N1 infected
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 08:40:38 -0600
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On 12/2/2024 6:35 PM, RonO wrote:
> On 12/2/2024 1:40 PM, RonO wrote:
>> https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/index.html
>> https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/situation-summary/mammals.html
>>
>> I can't find any announcement, but the CDC has increased the 
>> California numbers by 2 today (Dec. 2).  The USDA has increased the 
>> number of herds infected to 689, but I do not know what states are 
>> affected because they haven't updated their data sheet.  It still has 
>> the old Nov 27 confirmed data that they put up last Friday.
>>
>> Ron Okimoto
>>
> 
> https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-11-29/raw-farm-sales- 
> suspended
> 
> Another batch of raw milk products came up positive from the same dairy 
> that tested positive.  Initial bulk milk tank testing was negative, but 
> the farm has identify several asymptomatic positive cows.  So the farm 
> was infected and didn't know it.
> 
> https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/california-reports- 
> h5n1-more-retail-raw-milk-virus-infects-2-more-dairy
> 
> CIDRAP notes that two more California dairy workers have been confirmed. 
>   California isn't announcing positives until they are confirmed and it 
> takes the CDC quite a while to confirm cases.  They may still be working 
> on the original batch of samples submitted by California around a month 
> ago.  I recall a news article that claimed that 39 samples had been 
> submitted, and the CDC has only released 30 positives and 1 that could 
> not be confirmed.  That would mean that the CDC is still working on 8 
> samples.  It could be that the article got the numbers wrong, or I 
> misinterpreted number of workers tested and submitted.  California 
> stopped announcing how many workers that they had tested.
> 
> CIDRAP also claims more poultry flocks have gone down in 3 states, but 
> doesn't name the states or the size of the poultry flocks.  Washington 
> should have identified their positive dairy herds by now, and it is 
> pretty sad that they haven't bothered to test their dairies.
> 
> Ron Okimoto
> 
It was actually 6 states that had poultry flocks go down.  All 6 should 
be looking for their infected dairy herds to try to stop the spread. 
Utah was stupid and stopped testing after they found 8 infected herds in 
the same county as the infected poultry farm.  They knew that they 
should have implemented contact tracing or bulk milk tank testing like 
California to find all the other infected herds, but like all the other 
states they went into denial.  Now another poultry farm in another Utah 
county has gone down with the dairy virus.  More poultry workers are 
being exposed to the virus, and it could have been prevented.  The price 
of eggs is going up because of the stupid way in which the USDA and CDC 
have handled this fiasco.

The stupidest thing is that the USDA and CDC are letting the states get 
away with this stupid behavior because they keep calling the dairy 
epidemic "avian influenza" when they know that it has been primarily a 
dairy infection since March.

Dairies are spreading the virus because dairy cattle shed huge amounts 
of virus, and dairy workers get infected and go to other farms 
(including poultry farms) and infect the new farms.  Transport of cattle 
has been limited to tested and negative animals since April, but the 
virus still spreads to states that did not get cattle and poultry farms 
that obviously did not get cattle.  It isn't rocket science, but the CDC 
and USDA have refused to face reality since the beginning when the first 
dairy worker was confirmed to be infected and was shedding live 
culturable virus.

Ron Okimoto